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Frozello
Country: Finland
Registered: February 10, 2018
Last post: February 15, 2020 at 6:53 PM
Posts: 325
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OWL Schedule is biggest reason why World Cup schedule is like this. I highly suspect that for 2020 we might be having OWL teams getting a chance to host World Cup qualifiers in their own venues, if they fit them into yearly schedule differently than for this year. I mean we have France/UK, Korea, China and USA/Canada as locations so it doesn't sound unrealistic for future, but might be too soon.

Personally I think best move would be Tournament with Top-16 teams (at this year), but question is how do you determinate, which teams are Top-16? Taking Top-100 accounts for each country based of SR is not really going to get us 16 best teams. It's kinda given China, Korea and USA being at top-3, if we rank countries based of SR of Top-100 accounts, but that's not necessary Top-3 for Tournament. Neither would Sweden be rank 4 in reality like they have been couple last years for group draws.

I think only flaw with old system with 4 qualifiers in different parts of world was that certain countries got unlucky, because Korea, China and USA were kind of favored in the group draw so whichever countries from Europe avoided all 3 of them got pretty lucky and last year that was France and UK. Since qualifiers were basically split into groups based on region, but EU having so many countries not all of them could been in same qualifier at France. I can't really blame how they made the system for previous years since you want to have a lot of people in your LAN events and streams. Having USA/Canada in NA and largest EU countries in France qualifier, China in Bangkok qualifier. Korea was playing in Seoul too. That did sure help a lot with interest for people to watch streams or attend LAN surely, but didn't really make groups "even".

Although I think we did see 2017 (32 teams) and 2018 (24 teams) that at most 20 teams might be at competitive level even, if they would not win any matches, but might win some maps. I'm waiting to see though, what happens, if only about 15-20 teams will attend. Would Blizzard offer to pay those extra 5-10 teams travels?

posted 9 months ago

That Top-10 paid travels/hotels etc. doesn't sound too good, but since they made it "open" for all teams who want to attend means there could have been something like 50 teams, if Blizzard would have said "we pay it all".

And to be fair there is only 10-15 countries, which are competitive enough to field a full 6-man roster for each spot. Not sure, where to draw the line for support in country numbers though.

Personally I do like 32 team formats (similar with World Cup for Football.. or Soccer for you Americans...), but skill gap currently is not large enough for such many teams. Maybe 16 or 24 teams is good format for OW at the moment, but I'm pretty sure rankings Blizzard used for past year from ladder SR of Top-100 players (or was it more than 100?) of each country doesn't really give up real picture, which countries are good.

posted 9 months ago

I believe that is biggest reason of age limit being 18 for they can be signed for OWL next season. Believe Flower is good example for this as everyone wanted to see him play in OWL after World Cup 2017, but he was too young to play for Season 1 and he didn't really shine in Contenders last year. So we had to wait like 1½ years for his debut in OWL.

Maybe it's easier for some other reasons too to have players only 18+.

posted 9 months ago

Philly getting owned by NYXL doesn't really tell you how low Philly should be ranked compared to other teams. Philly is average at the moment, but basically any of those other teams right below them are not any better.

Valiant ain't as bad as you think though. As you clearly are thinking them to be dumpster tier with Outlaws, Justice and Mayhem :P, but they are just tier above them :D Justice might be out of dumpster tier for next stage though they seem to be improving slowly.

posted 9 months ago

I just hope winner will stomp every NA team in Atlantic Showdown even though I still hope Gigantti wins...

posted 9 months ago

I can buy this power rankings. Wouldn't disagree with most of them. Maybe with few teams, which haven't played many games in Stage 2 yet or played vs weak/strong teams.

Although about Top-4 and Bottom-2 is easiest to guess :P

posted 9 months ago

Nah, Fusion is about where they should be with their most recent performances. (+/- 1 spot is not really a big deal).

Toronto however might deserve to much lower, but hard to tell yet. You can see Toronto is already placed 5 spots lower than last time and that's justified.

posted 9 months ago

Personally I don't really like these (be it a player, coach, GM, staff member or what ever) "retiring" after one or two stages...

Sure some people surely had a good reason to retire for their mental health or some other reasons, but in a way people not being committed for whole season makes esports as whole not so serious in my eyes.

I get it, if team does badly they have to make some changes in staff or players section, but don't think this kind of thing happens in traditional sports that people just say after couple months "this was just not my thing".

posted 10 months ago

there's only 2 regular season games + Contender playoffs, which in Legion case is probably 1 or 2 games

posted 10 months ago

Makes more sense that way.

posted 10 months ago

Wasn't there supposed to be 3 import limit? As far as I can see is 4 flags outside NA (Denmark, Belgium, Brazil and Latvia). Or they allowed to have more than 3, but can only field 3 each week?

posted 10 months ago

But since Mayhem have only 7 Koreans so far they are technically counted in roster as, if every team was meant to have at least 8 players? Either way I don't like it. Just wondering

posted 10 months ago

It's not really realistic to have all 28 games as EU friendly time. Also Chengdu being marked as "home team" might be the case for this specific match.

posted 10 months ago

I am actually wondering the same. I mean are Apply, McGravy and TviQ still in roster before someone else picks them up or are they actually out already?

posted 10 months ago

I am not sure I totally understand this trade.

Sure NotE is probably a little bit more proven on DvA (since that's what Off-Tanks play...). But, if there's some more trades/changes coming for Dallas or Boston this trade might start making sense, but can't say I would have expected this trade. Unless Boston was given chunk of money.

posted 10 months ago

I wonder, which DPS player they end up getting for backup. Would hope EU talent, but probably ends up being someone from NA Contenders without visa issues.

Correct me, if I am wrong, but Dafran was basically their Tracer, Zarya, Soldier, McCree etc. player, but which of these heroes ErsTer and NLaaeR can not play at high level? NLaaeR was their widow player, but I have no clue of his other hitscan heroes and I am not familiar with ErsTer and his heropool.

posted 10 months ago

So the whole concept of having esports based Arena is not very common I assume as that site you linked seems to in West Coast with few arenas and Fusion Arena is marketed as "The first ground-up, purpose-built esports arena in the Western Hemisphere." will be East Coast.

Yeah that's a good point with Rams/Gladiators and other teams that are owned by traditional sport team. Could assume they might have some place planned in their own arenas/stadiums.

posted 10 months ago

What kind of e-sports specific arenas there is already existing? I mean size (capacity) and location wise.

And had some other teams already announced their plans for home venues yet? I know Valiant is going to play at Microsoft Theater in LA?

I like the looks of Fusion Arena though.

posted 10 months ago

7 games in 5-6 weeks (I don't see Stage Playoffs being a thing for next year unless time period is extended) doesn't seem too hard. It's not like you can play back-to-back away games unless it's basically vs Valiant and Gladiators.

posted 10 months ago

Defiant is good and probably should is more consistent than Philly, but whole middle pack of the League is just so hard to predict.

NYXL and Vancouver most likely Top-2 even they do look a bit shaky time to time.

Justice at the bottom, but Florida and Valiant has shown some potential to play decent games and maybe even win some games.

For rest of the League I wouldn't even start predicting even though teams like Defiant would probably win most of those middle-table games and teams like Seoul probably lose.

posted 10 months ago

Because only 8 matches left for Stage 1 so they do only 2 days on weekend.

posted 11 months ago

It actually will be interesting to see, if teams such as Gladiators are really Playoff Contender (Overall Season) and are just having rough Stage 1 or are they already in their rightful place? Same goes for couple other teams, which might have easy or hard Stage 1 schedule.

posted 11 months ago

Maybe there's a secret standings for REAL Season Playoffs about who makes the biggest throw of the season?

posted 11 months ago

Try to explain, what's happening for a new viewer, when Tracer is blinking, if it would be 1st person camera. Simple answers for simple questions :)

posted 11 months ago

Will see Paris vs Vancouver might be actually a good one on Week 4.

posted 11 months ago

Trash Goats beats Trasher Goats?

posted 11 months ago

Last line is funny :)

posted 11 months ago

So Linkzr benched for Jake? I assume Jake was on Brigitte duty? Not seen the game, but maybe I take a look.

posted 11 months ago

I would like to believe Paris takes it, but like you said.. this week has been weird... Would assume this is game between two teams in better half of the table so hopefully it's a good one.

posted 11 months ago

Maybe, but like we have seen that some heroes require different kind of playstyle in Goats-meta than in previous metas and to be fair I haven't seen enough from Xepher, Manneten or McGravy to say who fits best for this meta. Assuming they would play Off-Tank role like it is played in OWL (Dva, Sombra and maybe there was some other dps heroes too).

posted 11 months ago

At least Florida did show that they have coaching staff so who knows maybe they are not totally at bottom this season, but don't think they make much higher than lower Play-In spots (10th-12th) for Overall Season Standings. if even that high.

posted 11 months ago

If Boombox is playing Fusion wins. Elk wasn't bad in this match, but it was not his primary role.

Although I don't know about map pool, not sure if either has played these maps yet.

posted 11 months ago

Well yeah... Philly is at least "okay" with Goats even though seems like Sado is mediocre with Rein (not trash like Gesture), but think we just saw the difference of Boombox vs Elk (who wasn't playing his primary role) as Zen. I don't think Elk did (I didn't watch his PoV) any big mistakes, but didn't really see him popping on kill feed as much as Boombox either. Will be interesting to see, if this leads up to Philly maybe filling up their roster with backup Off-Tank and Flex-Support (and maybe 4th DPS player as well) for later stages?

Credit to Florida though for not being as trash as Washington vs London Goats. I wouldn't say Florida was convincing at all though.

posted 11 months ago

Well Chengdu losses and Reddit ends up "praising" Chengdu for playing something else than Goats... like wtf... is this? Sometimes I just wonder are people watching any esports for high quality gameplay or just for "entertainment" valued gameplay with some weird shit happening, which just makes team lose?

I just don't get some people. If they would win I would understand the praise, but come on... team gets L after a match and people are like "but they didn't play Goats so they are true winners".

But then again, if their REAL main tank is still in visa hell I get why they are playing, what they are playing, but still stupid to praise any tactic as long as it's still crediting a L into standings...

posted 11 months ago

Florida threw Numbani draw away so much...

posted 11 months ago

You are saved this time.

posted 11 months ago

There's just no chance in hell.. that this match can be any worse than previous match!

posted 11 months ago

Well at least I don't need to look at those skins now... but holy hell how bad gameplay that match was...

posted 11 months ago

That's what you thought.....

posted 11 months ago

Have to look... I don't play Tracer anyways so it won't bother me :P

posted 11 months ago

Any suggestions though what skin even looks good? :S I made same promise for getting their skin....

posted 11 months ago

Just absolutely no words...

posted 11 months ago

Better start downloading... (half time)...

posted 11 months ago

I'm actually scared... on half time.... 2-0 for Washington...

posted 11 months ago

I didn't really watch NYXL vs Washington too closely to judge how team oriented their Goats was, but point was, if London tries solo carries while still playing Goats and Washington actually can play as a team.. who knows.

London just did so many "I'm superhero I can win 1v6" vs Philly and Paris so who knows.

posted 11 months ago

In before they still keep trying solo plays vs Goats..

posted 11 months ago

I will buy 1 Washington Justice OWL skin with my tokens, if they manage to win London in this match...

posted 11 months ago

Will be interesting to see, if teams that only played 1 game on first week can improve (teams that lost) or will other teams be able to read them (teams that won) for week 2.

I don't believe it happen, but first match on week 2 is Washington vs London... and, if London losses this... I'm just gonna lose my mind totally...

What's the record we are expecting teams needing to make season playoffs? Top-6 and 7th-12th Play-In Tournament?

posted 11 months ago

I am actually interested to see, what happens to this squad after Contenders Season 1.

As they were able to 'grandfather' 4 Koreans to this season they will have to drop/trade/loan one of them. Will be actually interesting to see how much soft-region-locking affects in NA, Pacific and China Contenders. It will have no effect on EU, Korea, South America or Australia anyways.

Na1st - Underaged, Maybe, Loan?
Bernar - Maybe
ChangSik - Maybe
Alarm - Season 3 Philly Fusion.. just no need to say more...

Only scenario how I see them keeping all of them in Philly Organization is that Bernar gets signed to OWL as backup Off-Tank.

posted 11 months ago
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