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Frozello
Country: Finland
Registered: February 10, 2018
Last post: May 10, 2020 at 8:27 PM
Posts: 371
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Vancouver winning games after putting team together less than 48 hours ago and you think Washington should have lost? Are we playing 1 day game here or 2 weeks/months game?

Titans are looking "decent" and with little more team synergy and possibly KSAA and Tsuna somehow gets to NA (KSAA being dual citizen probably makes it possible for him eventually, but no idea, if Tsuna can get to NA that quickly given current situation). Maybe during June Titans might win a game, which depends of course, which teams they play (Boston and Washington) (maybe Toronto or Houston on certain hero pools). They won't stand a chance vs Shock, Fusion, Paris, Glads, Atlanta, Fuel maybe even Florida and Valiant during whole season, if Vancouver gets their team together in same place eventually.

To be fair I don't expect them to win either of their games next week (Houston and Philly), but maybe Houston game could be "close", but no chance vs Philly.

posted 2 weeks ago

Well I meant more about, if you look at those 5 teams and their rosters do you really have one (or few) name(s) that shines out? Maybe I worded it badly, but it was meant more about, when you look at rosters just by names.

Boston? No
Houston? No, you could argue for Danteh, but not that big of a deal.
Toronto? Maybe Surefour, but doesn't really shine out.
Valiant? I didn't even know half the team before this season started
Washington? Well Corey is out so no

Nothing really shines out from any of these rosters. Decent or even good players, but not really any "superstar".

posted 3 weeks ago

Hot take Titans win 3-1!

posted 3 weeks ago

To be fair after couple weeks of practice for team synergy and stuff like that this team could look like one of the following teams Boston, Houston, Toronto, LA Valiant or Washington.

posted 3 weeks ago

This aged well

posted 3 weeks ago

Have very little knowledge of most of these players, but have to say roster looks interesting. Wonder who will be 7th player (or any other ones for subs).

Hard to see them anywhere else than in bottom half of the league, but hey what did everyone say about Valiant...

posted 3 weeks ago

Trades incoming or Contenders pickups?

posted 3 weeks ago

I don't know sure dive (think I started following EU/NA Contenders Season 0) was fun to watch like anything is, when you start watching anything, but to be fair it was kinda stale meta Winston/DvA/Lucio/Zen/Tracer + Widow or Genji that's how almost every map went as far as I can remember. That's just after thoughts that it wasn't really diversified meta even sure it was probably fun to watch and play.

Just hope we actually would get to stay in metas, where most of the team has a meaning instead of 5 of the team members in each team waiting for widow 1v1 duel winner cleaning up the rest of the field.

Tank and Support lives matters.

posted 3 weeks ago

Imagine how much money was spent on Spitfire Trio and how much Seoul is shitting the bed right now...

posted 3 weeks ago

That is and always have been my only critic towards full KR rosters in anywhere else than in Seoul. It's same as Finnish team of what not sport or e-sports would pick up full Swedish roster while there is at least some prominent Finnish players around.

posted 3 weeks ago

Well that's not reason to shit talk the organization if you want to stay with your family and parents.

Like I don't know how their families are in KR, but they say Covid-19 situation in Korea is pretty stable.

posted 3 weeks ago

Is Florida better than last year? Yes

Do they have more LOCAL fans? A team without local fan base is no team at all. Does this apply to Florida? Who knows

Sure color scheme is cooler for Florida this year, but I don't follow Florida enough in social media to see, if they are putting any content out, which isn't just "read subtitles" like most teams with KR roster does for their videos. Like I am not saying nobody can't speak Korean or any other language at all in those videos, but 10 minutes videos with only Korean as language is just something I don't care to watch, when team is not based in Korea. I would say same about any other language too, which isn't spoken as primary language in that country, where team is based in.

Also by the way have you noticed how saying anything semi-bad about Runaway always gets people angry? Titans never had fans, all they had was Runaways fans. Proof me wrong.

posted 3 weeks ago

Imagine trying to build a team brand in North America with having only players who speak Korean and find out it's not working , who could have guess? /s

Not to say "I told you so", but this was possible to be foreseen pretty early on Season 2. Everywhere were just talking about "Runaway this Runaway that".

posted 3 weeks ago

Obviously it's possible to play from anywhere for now, but wonder if every player needed to have a webcam etc. to be able to show their equipment etc. (Just remember seeing from Soon's vlog some weeks ago that Paris team was showing their equipment and pockets etc. for not having any "illegal" stuff with them). Just wondering how does that process go with referee check-ups.

posted 3 weeks ago

There may be some truth in that "easier wins in NA" in their choice, but I don't know moving players around the world isn't all that simple. As far as we know they had facilities in Vancouver, but they moved into Korea and they have something there or did they just tell players to play at home?

I don't know, which non-KR organizations even have facilities in Korea or can you even get a place to build operations there with this short notice? Team still has to be able to support the players no matter, where they play and how many non-KR staff members there is for Titans that probably couldn't be in Korea forever, if their visas expire at some point?

posted 4 weeks ago

Maybe, but I think New York XL moving away from New York is understandable given current situation (case/death numbers and all the lockdown stuff), but hardly any other US state is even close to same situation currently. And in Canada it's Quebec / Ontario with reasonable high numbers, but rest of the country seems to be still pretty small numbers.

posted 4 weeks ago

When you put it that way It just shows players don't care about that organization/city/team so why would fans want to care about that team, if their players are willing to care about fans of the team? You are saying players don't want to win in Vancouver is just another red flag, why sign with a team, which you don't want to win for? Players knew they would be in their teams home market for this season so, what the hell they expected?

Honest opinion ain't the same than truth. I may not like something, what is happening in the world, but my opinion still may not be the truth no matter how much I try to make everyone believe it. Shit talking their previous team publicly is just a sign to other teams that person might not be ideal person to sign as you never know, what he might say after he leaves your team. You are saying teams are not afraid to picking up players with "bad reputation", but just google a little and you find little more information about some players that do not even get a chance, because of their "bad reputation", which might be true or not, who the heck knows.

It's just same situation than with former London Spitfire GM Susie Kim tweeting about not being able to make fan meeting in Seoul, when their freaking team represents London.

Maybe Titans organization haven't been treating players as they would have wanted, but it seems some people believe everything they hear from internet and think it's 100% truth. Saying they haven't been treated the way they wanted to be treated is same as not really telling anything. Do you think players have really been giving 100% (PR and stuff) for their organization too?

posted 4 weeks ago

That's the only part (from public information) I can agree that it's very odd that Vancouver moved from NA -> KR -> NA. Otherwise players are meant to be the area, where team plays.

It was a red flag already before Season 2, when it was told that Runaway would sign only, if whole team signs. Does anyone really think that creates good relationship with team management, when you are forced to sign some people you don't really want, but you wanted 75% of the players? I think not.

posted 4 weeks ago

That's not I, what I meant. It's not like Vancouver (or any other team) organization didn't have something planned in their home city, when we were still meant to have Homestands. Titans is Vancouver, Vancouver is Titans, why buy a team slot into Vancouver, if you don't want to have your players in the area you are going to play most of your Homestands? Nothing weird, if Korean player wants be in Seoul, but if that is, what they expect while their team name is something else than "Seoul Dynasty"... I find it hard to really understand, what goes into their mind...

Like I get it, if they would have relocated (before covid-19 situation) into LA or whatnot place for most of the season to eliminate travelling to minimum, but so far I find it really hard to side with either side in Titans players vs Titans management so called issue. I don't know, what's going on, but some players on this case or some previous similar cases with players leaving the team, which involved drama with team are not really making themselves look good by some of their twitter comments. Sure there's probably something done wrong both sides, but some previous players from Boston at least did pretty low-grade comments about Boston after they left the team and, if I would be picking players for my OWL team I would think twice before even considering to sign such player (no matter how badly Boston was managed at the time or still is).

Like Vancouver management side has been quiet in public so, what can you say about them? Nothing really with real facts, but players put up something into social media, which of course doesn't make team look good, but what does that really tell about the player?

posted 4 weeks ago

I just find it odd that, if players didn't want to live in Vancouver... why sign with that team in the first place. Not that I know too much of the details in this one, but just find it really really hard to like some Korean players, when their usual respond is "would like to play with KR roster" and not to talk about how many KR players seems to been troublemakers in some teams (some westerns too, but hey that's Boston). Count all the internal drama in the league and most of it is involved or caused by Korean player (exclude 2 Boston Voldemort's).

Sure it looks weird with team moving from Vancouver to Korea and then back to Vancouver, but I don't know how bad situation it is in Vancouver area with Covid-19.

posted 4 weeks ago

I think it's more about how much money they are spending and to be fair I doubt sinatraa was cheap.

Nothing wrong with making a team this early, but would sinatraa just leave his 150k for lets say something like 50k and uncertainty? But then again like I said in previous post it's American way to throw money into something and hope it ends up being profitably.

posted 1 month ago

Because apparently in players contracts with OWL is a clause about not being able to retire and move into another game inside game organization. Don't remember actual wording, but someone was posting it (from rulebook I suppose) somewhere.

posted 1 month ago

Yeah, but they have like zero data about anything (orgs wise, who are signing players and stuff). Of course there's hype like there is with any other new game, which has potential to be successful game, but it's mostly American mentality to pray while throwing money into something while hoping for profit.

I just don't think same viewers will be watching multiple titles (for what ever reasons they are watching them in the first place). Time is limited no matter how much anyone would want to watch everything.

It could be competing with CS:GO; but there also could be a new game in few years that makes everyone say the same about that game than they are saying about Valorant at the moment.

posted 1 month ago

1-27 incoming unless Houston plays them on a week McCree is available

posted 1 month ago

It's kinda funny how much money seems to be thrown into a game, which haven't even been released yet.

posted 1 month ago

This aged well.

posted 1 month ago

New York / London left "East Coast" group and went to Korea. That leaves Philly, Paris, Toronto, Boston, Florida, Washington, Atlanta and Houston into East Coast for now.

Vancouver / Seoul left "West Coast" group and went to Korea. Which means West Coast group iwould basically be Shock, Gladiators, Valiant and Dallas.

28 games between 4 teams at West Coast would be pretty boring so they will probably figure something out to create some diversity.

posted 1 month ago

It's more about Dallas (and possibly Houston) playing teams from both East or West Coast as Texas is in the middle of nowhere. Where as Shock/Glads/Valiant are in California and presumably Florida, Washington, Atlanta, Toronto, Philadelphia, Boston and Paris(at New Jersey) at East Coast.

posted 1 month ago

To be fair Season 3 was meant to be break or make it year for OWL, but with recent events it's really hard to expect this year to be it, but next year with OW2 is really last chance. Sure would expect higher viewership numbers than current 40-50k, but chat is filled with kids spamming "Get back to Twitch" and all that non-sense so, if it's mostly those people gone... I'm happy, but someone else might not be happy :)

posted 1 month ago

Hope so. I feel like it was very much only option Blizzard (who ever actually is involved making these decisions) can do as they are marketing their games to kids and teens so they can't take risks to be involved in things like this even, if actions these players ever did would cause them nothing in public court.

Blizzard would not get Disney deal (again), if they had player like this in their broadcasts.

posted 1 month ago

I don't think we are provided all the information to protect privacy of those involved (same with previous DK case). Like, if there is minors (what ever happens to age of consent in given state, where this has happened) involved don't expect to get much information. California seems to be 18 though.

posted 1 month ago

Pretty much every major sports league tried to keep going as long as possible (American or European Leagues), but almost all of them shutdown on same week. Some leagues/countries took it seriously from the beginning (having all those safety measures etc. for hygiene), but none probably thought it would affect like it have.

It's just something you can't really prepare for. It's not like everyone even gets to "experience" some kind of serious virus pandemic in their lives.

As silly as it sounds, but it was either Aliens attacking or something like this, what would make world to work together for greater good.

posted 1 month ago

Well they said that a month ago, when situation was different than it currently is in many countries. Even, if things get better by June nobody would take a risk and host any big event in next few weeks or even months unless there's some miracle vaccine by then, which is also unlikely.

But Playoffs or Grand Finals are at end of August or September so it's really hard to predict how things go for next 4 months. Maybe teams can gather in some location to play those games, but don't think we see event with crowd this year.

posted 1 month ago

If true obviously not acceptable actions, but I only wonder why these kind of things are not brought up, when he was signed to OWL team, but instead of about 4-6 months later in the middle of a season? Well at least this specific case she is telling is about 6 months old not that I know, what other stupid stuff Mouffin has been doing after that.

On second note.. how come these people haven't learned anything from Season 1 OWL... and that one player whose name shall not be mentioned?....

posted 2 months ago

So next weekend bedroom casting?

posted 2 months ago

Hopefully at least (presumably East Coast group of teams) some games will be played around same times than previous weeks had games. Personally I would want to see West Coast teams playing too, but I can understand timezone differences being bummer to fit them perfectly.

Would be still nice to get some player interactions (post game interviews or something like that), but I can kind of understand it might not be possible for every game.

posted 2 months ago

Doubt we get to see many, if any Homestands this year. Guess there's small chance for July/August Homestands + Playoffs/Grand Finals. Situation in China (according numbers) is getting better and slowly it's getting back to normal, but it took somewhat 2 months (I don't remember exact dates, when they started to do something about it, but they kind of have it under control now according numbers/information we are being provided) to "stop" mass spreading, but it's far from over yet.

Although at this point I don't even care, if it's totally online or teams at LAN without crowd.

posted 2 months ago

Well that's the problem with LAN format as travelling is not an option for some teams. It's not the most important thing to solve for now though.

posted 2 months ago

True. Not sure, if LAN without crowd is possibility for all games though given, where some teams are currently located. Sure Chengdu vs NYXL (if both playing from their home cities) wouldn't be fair match up with pings, but NYXL vs Philly should be pretty much okay in that sense for pings.

As far as I know: teams are located like this for now:
China = Chengdu
Korea = Hangzhou, Guangzhou, Shanghai
NA = All of the rest?, but a lot of them are still spread around between east and west.

posted 2 months ago

You were right it wasn't pretty. (2-0 currently :P)

posted 2 months ago

Will have to see couple weeks before I can say do I really like Hero Pools in OWL. Maybe it's teams playing this weekend or meta of this weekend so far not getting to me or I am just tired, but guess I am fine with this, if we end up seeing more variation in comps every week even, if some weeks comps might be boring.

Looking that current live viewers isn't really telling you much about viewership, when some people use MLG. Although I would like to see some team based viewership data around half way of the season. Nobody will be watching every game, when we finally start to have 2 locations for games.

posted 2 months ago

I am not even sure how to rate Paris anymore. Think I originally placed them (in my own special mind) somewhere around 12-13th, but that feels low for them now.

posted 2 months ago

When not every team looks the same there's a chance some teams are actually interesting :)

posted 3 months ago

Unfortunate thing, but this whole corona-virus situation in certain countries is just showing that even, if 99 people out of 100 people go along with basic hygiene steps that 1 person who doesn't can just screw things up for everyone else. which is even more unfortunate.

Wonder how many of the teams currently in Korea are able to get back to States? All US based teams surely, but are Seoul + 3 Chinese teams stuck in Korea and, what about Chengdu? I don't know, when they would have been playing first time in US based Homestand so no idea, when they could even come to country? Have a feeling that we might end up not having any Asia teams playing this year at this speed.

posted 3 months ago

I do agree that it's a bit silly with 4 out of 7 maps being Control, but kind of understand why we are not having Hybrid/Escort 2nd time in regular season match. Can't make games last forever after all. It's not that we have 2 draws that often.

Control normally won't last even 10 minutes, if you don't count all the countdowns.

posted 3 months ago

Toronto did look decent/good team for maps 2-5, but I wouldn't dare to rate them higher than somewhere lower parts of Play-in spots (10th-12th) until they play couple more games.

Well compare Season 2 Philly vs Season 3 Philly and it's very clear Season 3 Philly is much more team cohesive (what ever will be the reasons for that).

I think the schedule will give us some surprises eventually as some teams will have few weeks break before a match, where as their opponent have been playing for couple weekends in a row (possibly 2 games each weekend too). Not sure though, if that was the case for this game.

posted 3 months ago

Didn't find those games there anymore earlier. Well at least not in their old form, maybe they are still somewhere there, but well will have to see, what games will be played, if any extras at Homestand.

posted 3 months ago

Is there a list of cancelled Chinese Homestand games somewhere as I was just wondering, which games are possibly played at Seoul Homestand? As they are not been shown anymore after cancellation.

I mean can easily rule out teams, which are already playing both days, but don't remember match-ups from cancelled weeks to think, which games could be possible to happen.

posted 3 months ago

I want to say Houston wins since Florida is still probably pretty bad (or are they..?), but to be fair I don't think Houston or Florida are that much of a different for their power rankings level.

I want to hope Houston is better than Florida, but I don't know how much I want to believe in all these talks I see around the interwebz...

posted 3 months ago

That's the dream for Soe / Custa / Reinforce / + visiting analyst to make a draw for bans live after Sunday's games at post-game Watchpoint.

It would also maybe make more people tune into post-game show weekly basis.

posted 3 months ago
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