Should be a win for London, Atlanta didnt play any strong team this stage
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|Last Posted:||August 18, 2019 at 4:09 PM|
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Should be a win for London, Atlanta didnt play any strong team this stage
Damn fond memories of the Warriors (Osh-Tekk ones I mean), guys were playing really well and also very VERY friendly in chat after lost matches.
Good luck to KSAA!
Maybe next season, but I'd honestly change also some players.
Chubz: He's either very unlucky or not as good as most people think he is, one of the worst track records of all EU Tanks.
Asking: I really love the guy, loved his time with 6nakes, but since he went to NA...
Slur: Ex0rath imo was better
The rest is good, but I guess if you drop Chubz TEK36 will follow?
All in all, I didn't like the announcement of this new roster, "let's go full FR for communication" then the got a Brit as flex support.
They actually performed worse than with the previous roster... also and this is really VERY personal (being me Italian), relegating one of the best EU DVAs (not already on big teams) to streamer was bad.
I was tempted by Twilight, but... Guxue ftw tbh, the guy is a beast.
Welcome back mate, and why change that title? Is a perfect jebaited one. :)
Shangai looking nuts, if Phillie is still in this match gotta thank Boombox.
oh well that explains a lot, still funny stuff. :)
Funny but weird moment, is this not live?
If Carpe starts losing Widow's battles (gj Corey btw) I see it grim for Phillie. :/
Also, I get it he doesn't want to have Fragi in the team, and probably by now Fragi is completly wahsed up, but Sado ain't a great tank.
Are they playing this in the morning? :O
When you have a home team, literally "home" hurts criticizing it, but... wasn't very hyped about the "let's go all French so communication's easier, but stick in it a Brit"
Yes I'm a "little bit" butthurt, sorry :)
GG HSL thou good win!
Ошибки were made, but he's back.
He came back to EU for some holidays and maybe didn't feel like going back to NA?
Saying this just 'cause of all the tweets he posted about being with his mum, taking time off, etc...
How can you not like Kariv?
Give him a team that doesn't bicker, that plays him and others on their role and you got a good team.
What's amazing is that summing up all DK people you get to 5-6mill... less than London?
Leaves us poor ITA guys some crumbs, that's the only place we can see our flag in OW. :)
Logix back into OWL Kreygasm
And finally Mangachu gets a shot!
Thank you Mr Logix
Let's go HSL! :)
Gotta love casters that on a 2-1 for Hurricanes hope they will win... sigh
GG SMS, this was a nice match. :)
From a purely fun point of view I don't see too many issues besides how this gets implemented (e.g. role queue means way longer queues, no matter the numbers involved), as in the end everyone surely has an hero (or more) he/she likes to play, this should make it easier to actually play them and not being forced on something you might be even good at but really don't want to play.
From a competetive point of view... well the opposite, but then it's again a personal issue you'd still be free to decide if you want to have more fun (while still trying) on your fav heroes, or if you ONLY want to win no matter what, then nothing would changed compared to how the game is right now.
In the end this won't remove trolls/throwers/OTPs, it will only remove GOATs, and that's why I'm neither happy nor mad about this change... Maybe it's 'cause I'm not a DPS player.
Last point I have is a very personal opinion... I have the feeling this will lead to longer periods where a meta isn't established (unless OWL and other heavily organized teams will actually spend time trying to create/mold one), but once there the new metas will be even harder to break, so not so sure this is an improvement.
Oh I honestly don't know how to take this...
The guy could surely be a beast, so it's of course sad to see him leaving the OWL.
On the other hand in hindsight (ikr?) one could see something like this coming considering his roster movements and where he ended up.
I only hope for him this wasn't actual "Burn out" but rather a conscient decision to move forward before getting there, as it's always very hard to get out of it. :(
I'm not a fan of the guy (as a player, not as a person), but this is some very shitty stuff...
Happened to me only once, but was more than enough, besides the obivous huge economical issues it also affects you at another level, even more so if your professional life brings you to live abroad. :(
Best of luck to him and his gf
it will eventually get introduced to competitive ladder, which is healthy for the game. 2-2-2 allows for role queue, which allows for a more stable ladder system.
True, but how long will the queues be?
I totally agree forcing everyone to stick to 2-2-2 in comp OW would be a solution to weird/unfun matches on the ladder, but opens a lot of other possible issues.
Is the 2-2-2 lock going to be enforced at a queue level? That might probably be the better option, but leads to potential gargantuan queues.
Is it only at character selection screen? Won't fix anything, people that doesn't want to play a different role will either quit the match (so back to queue issue) or throw (intentionally or via bad plays)
But aren't they just talking about OWL?
My question is do pro players (as a whole) really dislike playing GOATS? Or is it "just" DPS players, which means 1/3 of the pros?
That said they are doing it for the viewers, as apparently people can't follow what happens in 3-3 and so don't enjoy it?
I'm personally tired of GOATS, but the same way I was tried of the Mercy meta or the dive one, metas become stale after a while, but imo you don't fix them by introducing hard locks like this one.
I agree with Farsil, why not introducing a banning system which has been missing for years, both heroes and maps?
A pity. :(
Sado's Rei is really not good enough for this level of GOATS, and Carpe on Zarya simply doesn't carry as much as on DPS. :/
Chinese Dot... erm OW
Twilight carries this team like a beast, I mean they are all good but without him they'd be no near as good as they are.
Why thou? Management is clearly the strong point of the Mayhem...
Very very nice of Blizzard to make a rewind brodcast of 2018 OWL during EU Contenders... nice move Kappa
The flag meta is back!
Will this be the right move?
I honestly don't know this player much, but best of luck to him, he'll need it.
Buds whatever pogu!!!
Well at least we got Blase's Doomfist :)
Also football-like jersey for Phillie?
Paris has finally found its Zarya player looks like.
Florida... well is Florida.
EDIT: of course as soon as I post something... Paris starts throwing. LUL
Ain't even fun to watch, and yes I know a lot of people likes to watch dominant teams, sadly I don't. :/
GG Titans I guess.
Oof the downvotes for wanting to see Fragi play...
As for Carpe, he'll eventually step up again... eventually.
They also imo need to improve target focusing.
I know they were against the Titans, but oh my... I was almost triggered, so many fights they could (and should) have won and yet you could see 3-4 Titan's health bars getting chunked at the same time.
Wish they at least tried Fragi (if he's still around) in the end the team who's at the top has a tank that plays the same way.
But I guess if your carry doesn't feel comfortable playing with you, it's bench time.
Uhuh you make "joke" picks 'cause you are sure you're gonna win anyway... worked well on Paris.
Both imo clearly deserving a chance in OWL, but somehow doubt it. :(
Gotta hope at least they are treating their players well at the moment, as this is another rough year (actually worse than the first) and history tends to repeat itself...
Well when also the young talents quit...
That "for now" leaves one hoping, but still... a pity. :(
Also that sleep at 4:50 in his video...saw it live was amazing.
Again agree with you, we are partially looking at it from different perspectives, but yes agree.
As of quality of young players, I really like Dridro, as much as I for example like Eclipse, the latter thou bounched back even from Contenders NA (still believe he's a nut Zen/Ana), and the first... well now they built a team around him, with house and everything, let's see what comes out of him (and SMS more in general).
On that note, watching DragonEddy stream at 3 am (damn insomnia of mine) on NA servers getting into top 10 (for EU) makes me even more sad...
Well that's weird considering prior to OWL they were actually winning tournaments, which was the whole reasoning of their org not spending any cent on new players.
"Why spend for even a 7th player when we can ride these guys who've already been playing together for some weeks and then eventually replace them for cheap?"
This is of course only my very personal speculation, facts are they were a 6 men only roster to begin S1, and those 6 men were considered one of the top 2-3 teams in EU/NA.
I still believe Zuppeh is a good player, as well as everyone else, the point is in a meta that wasn't GOATS their DPS should have popped off, and they didn't.
Logix was starting to, TviQ never did and between the 2 he was the one everyone was counting on as an EU flex DPS god.
Well I believe we are going in that direction thou (not just Florida) the scene in general.
Koreans are on an average better and their non-OWL scene is still a scene to the point they flood the only other real scene still in play, NA.
Check how many young players you see in Contenders EU or actual NA players in Contenders NA? Aren't we always seeing the same faces?
Am I against it? Nah not as a principle, if a player is better than another he/she deserves to play (and that's the case for most Koreans), the point imo is, the moment for whatever reason Koreans find another esport they prefer, OW is dead.
“Right now, there’s a feeling that a lot of the senior management just don’t understand esports,” another source close to the situation said, “but there is no room for negotiating with these people. They are convinced their vision, which is more in line with televised sports, is the right way to go and it has just made people miserable.”
Nahh c'mon man, just 'cause:
You killed 2017's competitive scenes to create hype for your league.
You decided to structure your league like the NBA (no relegation, no promotion, just buy to play).
You decided you had to absolutely sell your produ..erm league to the TV networks.
You still prevent every medium/big sized non OWL affiliated org to run its tournaments.
Now imagine a world in which, the bottom 3 teams at the end of a season were relegated to Contenders and the top 3 Contenders' ones were promoted to OWL (after cross-regional playoffs).
A world in which you could watch high level competitive matches every single weekend of the year (e.g. ESL 1 Birmingham not even a Dota 2 Major, had more viewers than the latest OWL matches) and on different timezones, sometimes even at the same time (outrageous!!).
I could also add, the fact the game is pay to play + lootboxes (atm is still at 20 Euros) doesn't lead to a constant growth of your esport, but that's a VERY personal point of view.
To be honest? I still believe he was one of the weak links in Florida's 1st season, way waaay to inconsistent for the role he had.
Imo (big big imo) Him and Zebbosai were the 2 real weak links in S1, CWoosh (that was better as a Genji player rather than a tank) and Zuppeh were decent, Logix and Mannetten were (and still are) OWL material.
Does OWL material mean top 1-3? Very likely not, but surely not bottom tier (like the current iteration of Florida)