Involv3r
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Signed Up: June 1, 2017
Last Posted: December 30, 2017 at 7:40 PM
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Picking up OWLMP and Those Guys made a team in General Discussion

FunnyAstro will be their main support imo. Crusade will more likely be their offtank.

posted 3 weeks ago
Eager to know what are ex-Rogue up to? in General Discussion

It's been said on Knoxxx's stream a month or so ago that Nico was only practicing hitscans.
Only issue is they don't have a strong Dva player, I mean Nico can play it but not anything outstanding. Will prob be a triple dps dive team unless they need Zarya or Hog (which I think Leaf will play).

posted 1 month ago
Dallas Fuel Roster in General Discussion

It really depends on how they wanna approach their games. Playstyles are different basically. xQc is more agressive, whereas Cocco is more on the defensive side.
It's a good option to have both at this level, will make for different strats and prepare better against the teams they'll have to face.

posted 1 month ago
SEO vs. SHD – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Dynasty 4-0 Dragons

posted 1 month ago
VAL vs. SFS – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Valiant 4-0 Shock

posted 1 month ago
FLA vs. SFS – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Mayhem 3-1 Shock

posted 1 month ago
Pickem Website in Off-Topic

Or to me!

posted 1 month ago
OWL discussion thread in General Discussion

Their tank and support lines are one of the sickest in the League for me. SBB is a monster, and Libero is the most versatile Korean player, perhaps no Flower, but he is up there too. I just got a feeling about them.

posted 1 month ago
OWL discussion thread in General Discussion
  1. NYXL
  2. Fuel
  3. Spitfire
  4. Valiant
  5. Dynasty
  6. Gladiators
  7. Fusion
  8. Outlaws
  9. Mayhem
  10. Uprising
  11. Shock
  12. Dragons
posted 1 month ago
OWL discussion thread in General Discussion

Agilities and Silkthread are not top tier projectile players tho. Top tier Genji (Agilities that is) yes, not projectile.

posted 1 month ago
NYE vs. BOS – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Rooting for XL this season, the big dogs' underdog. Also wanna see Boston do well this season for all the shit they've gotten tbh.

Doubt this game will be close given how young the Uprising roster is, but hope they do well down the line.

posted 1 month ago
SADO suspended first 30 matches of Overwatch League season in News

He's aware of what he did and promised he'll show a better side of him. Everyone makes mistakes, his is certainly not fine but is not deserving of a lifetime perception sentence.
Fully deserves a second chance imo, never saw him play but I hope he proves his worthiness on the field, only way you can turn it around in sports/esports.

posted 1 month ago
Overwatch League Preview: Prepare for Mayhem in News

He tweeted a couple weeks ago that he proceeded with the name change and removed the 'w'.

posted 1 month ago
FLA vs. SFS – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Ye these preseason games will just serve to test the waters with teams in an offline environment and such, results shouldn't be taken too seriously.

posted 1 month ago
FLA vs. SFS – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Poko is a pretty sick Dva, never seen Hotba play so can't really talk about him, but Poko is nuts.

posted 1 month ago
Where do you talk about the overwatch league? in General Discussion

Convivial, affable and warm environment for deepest talks about professional Overwatch. No memes or trolls everyone is welcome.

posted 1 month ago
DAL vs. HOU – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Only saving grace for this squad are CoolMatt and LiNkzr in my eyes. Rawkus is a great support too but idk if they'll split Bani and Boink right from the start.
I mean this is pre-season so I was bantering mostly, I do firmly believe that there is no comparing these 2 teams though.

posted 1 month ago
DAL vs. HOU – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Some Outlaws bouta get smoked.

posted 1 month ago
Over.gg gold-diamond team in Recruitment (looking for players)

Only heroes that are really hard on high ping are Roadhog and Doomfist, Rein would be in that list too if I was in higher ranks. And I'm a trashmouse main now btw, shit's too broken not to play.

posted 1 month ago
Contenders and Open Division details announced in News

Besides esports not being big at all in Africa, I think it's mostly due to Blizzard servers not being installed there. So SA gets 190-220 to EU (from the forums) and North Africa (NA #2 btw) I'm guessing must get 80 (or perhaps more) ping to EU. People in some other countries where Internet isn't as developed would probably be unable to even play the game sadly.

Africa could be a huge market for the future but right now it doesn't look like it's in Blizzard's priorities whatsoever.

posted 1 month ago
Over.gg gold-diamond team in Recruitment (looking for players)

I live in EU and play on NA with no problem, just have to get used to ping (~130 from Switzerland).
Hitscans feel oh so damn good on EU servers but just can't stand nobody talking.

posted 1 month ago
Over.gg gold-diamond team in Recruitment (looking for players)

Why doesn't it surprise me that you were a Dva main Remiska LuL

posted 1 month ago
Over.gg gold-diamond team in Recruitment (looking for players)

You'd be surprised how OW can run on low end PCs (best game in that regard imo). I use a laptop that isn't meant for gaming, and I played OW for the longest time on xbox thinking it wouldn't run it.
I play on garbage settings (50 render, low-ish res) but it is still playable (~50 fps). Unless you want good graphics quality and performance, don't necessarily need much $ to play on PC tbh.

There's a whole world of difference between playing on console and PC, so my advice would be to get a cheap PC and in the meantime save for an upgrade later.

posted 1 month ago
FLA vs. SFS – Overwatch League Season 1 Preseason PS in Matches

Will be surprised if Poko isn’t a starter. Guy’s a monster beast at every off tank besides Hog (never played it at pro level so can’t say really). Leaves Hotba as a viable option since Sado’s past isn’t the cleanest but I’ve never seen him play.

posted 1 month ago
The OWL Pellets: A Fantasy Challenge in News

DPS
Nesh, aKm, Mangachu

Nesh with the Genji, Tracer, Sombra and Widow. aKm with Mccree, Soldier, Reaper and Widow and Mangachu with the projectiles.

Tank/Flex
ChrisTFer, Gods, Snizzlenose, Zappis

Chris for main tanker, and Gods for offtanks. Gods can fill main tanks and most DPS heroes as well. Snizzlenose is the best Hog this game has seen, but he got cucked by Dva being so prevalent, so it's a no brainer in case the meta shifts towards Hog. Zappis is an all around player and was a great team captain.

Support
KnOxXx, Roolf, Hidan, NUT!

KnOxXx on the main support, always been a great shotcaller. Roolf has a crazy good Zen, and Hidan was a great Ana. Can also spread the possibilities with a Roolf Hidan support combo. Finally, NUT! for them Symmetra first point holds, EZ wins.

posted 1 month ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

Barça fan since my youngest years, played football for a long time too. If you can say that players insulting other players get sent off every time, I don't know what to say. You can see it easier in every rivalry game.
Perhaps it's different in Germany, which I don't really follow tbh, but every big league is the same in that regard.

It's common, and everyone knows it's in the heat of the moment, when the game ends, players shake hands and move on (except in small cases where it gets really personal).

posted 1 month ago
Most decorated OW player(s) in General Discussion

I don't agree at all. Only squad that could compete is Korea, that is if what you mean by majority of established teams is everyone besides DF, old Rogue, LH and GC Busan (doesn't leave much established teams tbh).

posted 1 month ago
Most decorated OW player(s) in General Discussion

It's an exhibition tournament, where most players don't have consistent playtime with their teammates throughout the year. Synergy is hard to build in a few weeks, where pros also have to scrim with their own team in the meantime. Can't be taken too seriously, although the WC 17 was much more stacked than last year's.

So for me it doesn't feel like a real tournament, and thus my reasoning for not counting it. Probably a Minor at best for now, or should just be listed as an exhibition/friendly tournament until it becomes a thing where pro players are given a proper schedule to prepare for it.

posted 1 month ago
Most decorated OW player(s) in General Discussion

Well Korea has had the most Premier tournaments going on, west has the most Majors. So can't possibly rank decorated players if everybody can't participate in the same tournaments.
Also World Cups are listed as Premiers on Liquipedia, which doesn't make sense, so I won't count those in.

I'm gonna name players, and by extension their teams at the time :

  1. Taimou, HarryHook, Cocco and Chipshajen have most Major wins (5) and 1 Premier win (APEX S1)
  2. SoOn has 4 Major wins and 1 Premier win (Overwatch Open)
  3. uNKOE, aKm, Winz and KnOxXx have 3 Major wins and 2 Premier wins (APAC 16 and Atlantic Showdown 16)

These are the most decorated players in the West (NA LuL).

Tobi, Ryujehong, Miro and Zunba have 1 Major win (Seoul Cup) and 2 Premier wins (doesn't feel fair not counting WCs because I personally believe they would've won them regardless, but little prep time, different team environment make them not feel like Premiers tbh).

These are easily the most decorated players in Korea.

Can't really compare, OWL should be the best starting point for such a ranking imo.

posted 1 month ago
how do I get my stream in the sidebar in Off-Topic

Only pro players are featured on the side bar. If there are not enough streaming to fill it, it pulls the streamers with the most viewers below them.

posted 2 months ago
OWL mid season signings speculation thread in General Discussion

1k would be #6 and 2k #3 on Twitch right now wat

posted 2 months ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

Sadly matchmaking has to be fixed on Blizzard's end first for these measures to actually be effective. Right now it's just smokescreen, just like Dafran's case was.

posted 2 months ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

I actually said in a longer post in the first thread that an action should be taken for what he did, but not a 72 hour ban.

And it has been said many times about this, he had Djuggs in his games 5 times in a row before he started reporting him, so it doesn't matter if he did it at the start of it, he's not suddenly gonna swap off Sym and join voice chat. He shouldn't have reported him for cheating though and he got banned fair and square.

What he did was immature, but what Moonmoon, Tim, and some pros have done in their streams shouldn't be disregarded if one person gets banned.

posted 2 months ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

Symmetra one-trick he had for 5 games in a row before he actually reported him. Refused to communicate or swap. Djuggs got suspended for disruptive gameplay.

xQc got banned because he reported him for cheating (as well as poor teamwork and griefing, both of which are correct in this instance).

Also, Moonmoon reported xQc for abusive chat and typed 'french canadian' in the box. Moonmoon won't get banned obviously. And I know it's for the memes, but the double standard is mind boggling.

posted 2 months ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

How about soccer, fuckfest in cursing referees and players. So please just drop it, you're just digging deeper.

posted 2 months ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

He got banned for false report, look up what you post before actually posting it.

And what's your Blizzard source ? Or you not liking somebody is enough for you to say whatever it is you wanna say ?

posted 2 months ago
xQc ban in stream in General Discussion

For the 100th time, he didn't get banned for toxicity. Get your facts straight, and stop doubling on posts, it's pointless.

posted 2 months ago
OWL mid season signings speculation thread in General Discussion

He used to pull 1 to 2k viewers when he was streaming consistently. He stopped streaming for months, other people started streaming/got bigger viewerbase. Talespin is a big fan favourite.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

I have seen him multiple times reporting mercy or junkrat players for "cheating"

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I'll say this though, I didn't see that at the time, but I would've probably done the same after watching the VOD. Playing with/against a thrower multiple times in a row has its limits on one's patience. He went too far, but Blizzard went even further.

A random guy takes a clip out of context and literally gets a pro player suspended.
https://twitter.com/ryanshearer7997/status/931702771354660865

Sad days and stellar work from the Blizzard management team.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

This isn't about toxicity though, xQc didn't get banned for toxicity either. I've watched Fuey multiple times and he's one of the nicest guys and very good at Torb. But he doesn't swap off Torb when he needs to/his team wants him to. Makes people tilt and rightfully so.
I've heard people be really mean to him on stream and it's a big feelsbad, but what do you do when you need to run dive and you have a Torb that refuses to swap ? Do you just take the L instead of actually trying to win the game ?

It's a big circle. You one trick niche heroes -> people get tilted -> people are toxic towards you (some sadly push it too far) -> you give up on joining voice chat (in some cases) -> people get even more tilted.
Add 2 heroes to your hero pool, and everything will be way better. One tricks are selfish, and it's the sad truth.

I agree with the role select though, would make ranked that much more bearable for most people.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Do you actually know why he reported that guy before the game even started or not ? He had him the games before and he refused to join voice chat and work with them at all, actually threw the game. Put context into clips instead of just blindly sharing them ;)

And 'fuck you' actually shocks people now. Please.
It certainly isn't the nicest thing but reading match chats and hearing voice chats, I'm pretty sure way worse things have been said.
But hey, how do we send a message to the largest number of people possible with minimum thought ? Let's just ban the guy with 8k viewers for 3 days, that'll make people stop wrongfully using the report system. KEK.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

I see what you mean, but those heroes are viable in certain scenarios only. Once they stop working, those people refuse to swap, leave voice (if they ever join it) and keep on playing, or in some cases jump off the map/run at the enemy with a hammer equipped etc.

That is in fact the problem with some one tricks. You can't force teams to play around you for you to play whatever hero you wanna play, that's extremely selfish, and makes some people tilt relatively easily.
Sometimes you gotta compromise, and you'd be surprised how many people would be friendlier to one tricks if they were willing to swap when they're not doing anything in a game.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Either you ban everyone for doing the same thing or you don't. The process of going through all reports is obviously very exhausting, but shouldn't make one person pay (more then others that do worse things) and let others slide.

To all the people saying this will work, Dafran got banned for a full season, and there are arguably more throwers now than when he was playing. So please, don't be so naive as to this being a symbol for change in community behaviour.
People will still troll in reports and in general, still throw, still be toxic.

Let's say Sinatraa, JAKE or Flame got banned, do you think this topic would've gained the same traction ? Heeeeeeeellz fucking no. This is their plan, and it ain't a good one.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Don't say it if you can't back it up then. Plain and simple. This is how false rumours start.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Yes, that's EXACTLY what poor teamwork reporting is for. If you missed it go look for a blue post on the battlenet forums explaining it. If you lock a detrimental to the team comp hero and refuse to join voice chat and at least help with comms, you get the ban too.
HOW SURPRISING FOR A TEAM GAME TO ACTUALLY RELY ON TEAM PLAY SHERLOCK. But sure, enlighten me bud.

And that's the general consensus for people who don't like him, he wouldn't have 5+k subs and pull 6-7k viewers daily if the general consensus was he was a twat now would he ?
He does deserve some sort of a ban, not a 3 day.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Get the clip where he actually reports them for cheating. He may report them for griefing or poor teamwork, but not for cheating.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Let me start by saying that some kind of punishment is completely warranted in this case. The way he's been reporting isn't fine and should be addressed. I too turn off his stream when he goes too far sometimes, but this isn't the way to rid the community of toxicity. You think the guy jumps on the grind every morning waiting to be toxic to random people ?

The irony in this is, 30 or so minutes prior to his ban, his computer crashed for like 3 minutes, came back to his game, WON IT, and STILL lost 50 SR. Also, as he said, he's been stream sniped (which is fine on its own) by a guy (Gabe2004) who'd throw when on his team constantly, and tryhard (7) when against him, and it took 2 months before he got banned.
Reddit makes one post, and he gets banned within the day.

Maybe before laying down the bans, Blizzard needs to look into its ranked system. Matchmaking in higher ranks has been a joke for what, 4 seasons now ? xQc got put in (less than a 4 minute queue at that iirc) with a BRONZE and a bunch of plats after the last patch hit. A fucking bronze. And to whoever says 'Oh but that happens every time a patch hits, MM is just bugged'. That is not OK! Has been going for months.

And the biggest joke of all, THEY BANNED HIM MID-GAME. I could name you, off the top of my head, 5 or 6 people involved in OWL (plus big name streamers) who have been 'wrongfully using the report system'/toxic/throwing btw. The only one who got it was the guy with 8-9k viewers, that's a third of OW viewership on twitch at the time.
Sending a message is fine, great even, scapegoating isn't. People are free to dislike the person, but shouldn't act like they've never been bad teammates just because what they do isn't available to the public.

People are so quick to ride the ban one tricks train, but when it's Stevo or Fuey everyone starts crying about it. If you think this will affect how lower ranked people will behave, you're sadly mistaken. They're using the big name to hopefully make everyone behave imo, but that's wishful thinking to say the least.

posted 2 months ago
These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out in General Discussion

Unless you can pull a clip of him reporting someone, who isn't cheating, for cheating, I'd suggest you refrain from saying this. I watch his stream quite often and he cancels a bunch of his reports, he just does it for the memes.
The fact of the matter is, he reported a Sym one trick not joining voice chat, and I'm interested in knowing if that account got banned, cause if not, this whole thing is a joke.

Yes, he deserves some kind of action for what he did, but suspending people who actually ruin comp games for their fun for 1 day, and giving him a 3 day ban makes absolutely no sense. This is scapegoating at its finest. Using the popular streamer to send a message. He's been doing it, and countless others (I emphasize on this), since the start of the game, so now they decide to take action when it's a legitimate report ? How he reported is absolutely not right, the why is totally legitimate.

posted 2 months ago
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