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Involv3r
Battletag: Involv3r#2921
Country: Switzerland
Signed Up: June 1, 2017
Last Posted: April 22, 2018 at 8:18 AM
Posts: 778 (2.4 per day)
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The nature of Overwatch being so complex with different abilities/ults for each hero and varied comps, it would be hard for one person to keep tabs on everything going on and relay the information to his team.

I have never personally been in a professional setting so this is my take on how the general calling structure would be.

  1. First would be ult checking (allies) and tracking (enemies), which historically would fall under the main support role (so the Lucio, and recently Mercy player). Calling for an ult check helps everyone in the team know where they stand in ult economy, preparing for combos, getting position if need be.
    Tracking enemies ults allows for better preparation going into fights, expecting combos and getting ready for a team wipe (if dry fight) or a disengage+reengage (Fusion and XL are very good at this) for example. This is a very tricky one and in my opinion makes or breaks a main support at a professional level.

    • Supports ults are usually mirrored, but you can see exceptions here and there (i.e. winning a team fight and getting to heal everyone as lucio, but in the long run it normalises across teams).
    • Tanks' damage is pretty easy to keep an eye on, them being on the frontline, I'd say Roadhog would be the toughest to keep track of, but Wholehog is hardly impactful so not a big deal.
    • Trickiest one would be the DPS ults and their usage imo.
  2. Second is scouting. In most cases made by the Tracer player. This is for getting a better image of the enemy's position before engaging. The better you are prepared for a fight, the better are your chances at winning it.
    I'd imagine Sombra players would easily be able to do this as well, but she's not as omnipresent as Tracer has been in the game. Also high ground allows for Genji, Widow, Winston and Dva to do the same in specific situations (Volskaya, Anubis, Hanamura 2nd, King's Row 3rd etc).

  3. Then is target dive/focus. This is Winston's job in the dive meta. Where to go and who to go on. Bubble is a great ability to spread a team apart and for the DPS and Dva to deal damage 'safely' for a short amount of time. There is also the issue of Winston not having any range so you need him to be the one making the call. Seeing the good leap, bubble usage and decision making are massive parts of Winston's no brain no aim job.

  4. Last point would englobe every small thing that happens in the midst of fights (no reflect, no recall, low matrix/shield, hook's up, Ana/Zen dropped from x position, peeling etc), that would help make engages more calculated and effective. And this is easier for frontliners to spot and call. I'd call it counterplay.

Also keep in mind that calling affects mechanical play as it takes focus away, which is why DPS players don't call as much in general.
So all in all, I'd say everyone is involved in calls. Some less than others depending on the team's calling structure.

posted 4 days ago

Point 4 is not about Fuel's management team. It's about when he was doing tryouts pre OWL, I have an idea about who he's talking about but not sure.

posted 1 week ago

MINE Moon2A

posted 2 weeks ago

Yes I can explain, the KGB forced EQO to do it, just Putin looking out for his boy.

posted 3 weeks ago

You win the garbage comment of 2018, congrats.

posted 1 month ago

The name is Brigitte not Bridget or Bridgette lol

posted 1 month ago

Lateks Benbest
Train Snizzlenose
Mangachu Tseini Dids
Veinless Tomzey Evokje

Honestly it's tough to put together, a ton of players got picked up, now make Contenders great :pray:

posted 2 months ago

I really don't like that teams don't play one game, fairest ranking should include every match-up. Most of these games wouldn't heavily impact the ranking per se, but Outlaws v Valiant and Fusion v Dynasty would've been tight games, and quite possibly deciders for playoffs.

Some teams dodging strong games, while other dodging really easy/tough games doesn't feel fair to me. Then again, always hated RNG.

posted 2 months ago

It's not so much default to, but rather see more play time. Dive will still be played, it will just not be the best comp for every point.
Also, triple tank doesn't necessarily mean static, Winston Dva Hog works well too.

Also OWL's stage 2 maps will be KR, Hollywood, Lijiang, Nepal, Hanamura, Volskaya, Gibraltar and Route 66. All of which are Rein friendly if not across the map, on specific points.
Tank heavy comps have always been Ana's strong suit, and now are Moira's as well. Zen works too cause of discord, Lucio will be main support in the majority of situations because speed is too good.

As for Mercy, she's being hunted enough as is in a dive heavy meta where she usually has vertical and horizontal outs. Playing Mercy in a static comp means Mercy doesn't move around as much, which should be an easy kill for enemy flanker(s). The other supports are all LoS healers and all have either counter-flanker or escape abilities. Zen is an exception, cause with good peels, he becomes a punish hero, plus transcendence is imo the best support ult. Whereas Mercy is just a sitting duck.

All in all, the no more Mercy insta pick allows for more support and tank variation. Only thing I'm afraid of is tank heavy meta got stale very fast when it came around the first time. But we've seen some niche comps come out here and there already so I have faith.

posted 2 months ago

FunnyAstro will be their main support imo. Crusade will more likely be their offtank.

posted 3 months ago

It's been said on Knoxxx's stream a month or so ago that Nico was only practicing hitscans.
Only issue is they don't have a strong Dva player, I mean Nico can play it but not anything outstanding. Will prob be a triple dps dive team unless they need Zarya or Hog (which I think Leaf will play).

posted 4 months ago

It really depends on how they wanna approach their games. Playstyles are different basically. xQc is more agressive, whereas Cocco is more on the defensive side.
It's a good option to have both at this level, will make for different strats and prepare better against the teams they'll have to face.

posted 4 months ago

Dynasty 4-0 Dragons

posted 4 months ago

Valiant 4-0 Shock

posted 4 months ago

Mayhem 3-1 Shock

posted 4 months ago

Or to me!

posted 4 months ago

Their tank and support lines are one of the sickest in the League for me. SBB is a monster, and Libero is the most versatile Korean player, perhaps no Flower, but he is up there too. I just got a feeling about them.

posted 4 months ago
  1. NYXL
  2. Fuel
  3. Spitfire
  4. Valiant
  5. Dynasty
  6. Gladiators
  7. Fusion
  8. Outlaws
  9. Mayhem
  10. Uprising
  11. Shock
  12. Dragons
posted 4 months ago

Agilities and Silkthread are not top tier projectile players tho. Top tier Genji (Agilities that is) yes, not projectile.

posted 4 months ago

Rooting for XL this season, the big dogs' underdog. Also wanna see Boston do well this season for all the shit they've gotten tbh.

Doubt this game will be close given how young the Uprising roster is, but hope they do well down the line.

posted 4 months ago

He's aware of what he did and promised he'll show a better side of him. Everyone makes mistakes, his is certainly not fine but is not deserving of a lifetime perception sentence.
Fully deserves a second chance imo, never saw him play but I hope he proves his worthiness on the field, only way you can turn it around in sports/esports.

posted 4 months ago

He tweeted a couple weeks ago that he proceeded with the name change and removed the 'w'.

posted 4 months ago

Ye these preseason games will just serve to test the waters with teams in an offline environment and such, results shouldn't be taken too seriously.

posted 4 months ago

Poko is a pretty sick Dva, never seen Hotba play so can't really talk about him, but Poko is nuts.

posted 4 months ago

Convivial, affable and warm environment for deepest talks about professional Overwatch. No memes or trolls everyone is welcome.

posted 4 months ago

Only saving grace for this squad are CoolMatt and LiNkzr in my eyes. Rawkus is a great support too but idk if they'll split Bani and Boink right from the start.
I mean this is pre-season so I was bantering mostly, I do firmly believe that there is no comparing these 2 teams though.

posted 4 months ago

Some Outlaws bouta get smoked.

posted 4 months ago

Only heroes that are really hard on high ping are Roadhog and Doomfist, Rein would be in that list too if I was in higher ranks. And I'm a trashmouse main now btw, shit's too broken not to play.

posted 4 months ago

Besides esports not being big at all in Africa, I think it's mostly due to Blizzard servers not being installed there. So SA gets 190-220 to EU (from the forums) and North Africa (NA #2 btw) I'm guessing must get 80 (or perhaps more) ping to EU. People in some other countries where Internet isn't as developed would probably be unable to even play the game sadly.

Africa could be a huge market for the future but right now it doesn't look like it's in Blizzard's priorities whatsoever.

posted 4 months ago

I live in EU and play on NA with no problem, just have to get used to ping (~130 from Switzerland).
Hitscans feel oh so damn good on EU servers but just can't stand nobody talking.

posted 4 months ago

Why doesn't it surprise me that you were a Dva main Remiska LuL

posted 4 months ago

You'd be surprised how OW can run on low end PCs (best game in that regard imo). I use a laptop that isn't meant for gaming, and I played OW for the longest time on xbox thinking it wouldn't run it.
I play on garbage settings (50 render, low-ish res) but it is still playable (~50 fps). Unless you want good graphics quality and performance, don't necessarily need much $ to play on PC tbh.

There's a whole world of difference between playing on console and PC, so my advice would be to get a cheap PC and in the meantime save for an upgrade later.

posted 4 months ago

Will be surprised if Poko isn’t a starter. Guy’s a monster beast at every off tank besides Hog (never played it at pro level so can’t say really). Leaves Hotba as a viable option since Sado’s past isn’t the cleanest but I’ve never seen him play.

posted 4 months ago

DPS
Nesh, aKm, Mangachu

Nesh with the Genji, Tracer, Sombra and Widow. aKm with Mccree, Soldier, Reaper and Widow and Mangachu with the projectiles.

Tank/Flex
ChrisTFer, Gods, Snizzlenose, Zappis

Chris for main tanker, and Gods for offtanks. Gods can fill main tanks and most DPS heroes as well. Snizzlenose is the best Hog this game has seen, but he got cucked by Dva being so prevalent, so it's a no brainer in case the meta shifts towards Hog. Zappis is an all around player and was a great team captain.

Support
KnOxXx, Roolf, Hidan, NUT!

KnOxXx on the main support, always been a great shotcaller. Roolf has a crazy good Zen, and Hidan was a great Ana. Can also spread the possibilities with a Roolf Hidan support combo. Finally, NUT! for them Symmetra first point holds, EZ wins.

posted 4 months ago

Nesh BlessRNG

posted 4 months ago

Barça fan since my youngest years, played football for a long time too. If you can say that players insulting other players get sent off every time, I don't know what to say. You can see it easier in every rivalry game.
Perhaps it's different in Germany, which I don't really follow tbh, but every big league is the same in that regard.

It's common, and everyone knows it's in the heat of the moment, when the game ends, players shake hands and move on (except in small cases where it gets really personal).

posted 5 months ago

I don't agree at all. Only squad that could compete is Korea, that is if what you mean by majority of established teams is everyone besides DF, old Rogue, LH and GC Busan (doesn't leave much established teams tbh).

posted 5 months ago

It's an exhibition tournament, where most players don't have consistent playtime with their teammates throughout the year. Synergy is hard to build in a few weeks, where pros also have to scrim with their own team in the meantime. Can't be taken too seriously, although the WC 17 was much more stacked than last year's.

So for me it doesn't feel like a real tournament, and thus my reasoning for not counting it. Probably a Minor at best for now, or should just be listed as an exhibition/friendly tournament until it becomes a thing where pro players are given a proper schedule to prepare for it.

posted 5 months ago

Well Korea has had the most Premier tournaments going on, west has the most Majors. So can't possibly rank decorated players if everybody can't participate in the same tournaments.
Also World Cups are listed as Premiers on Liquipedia, which doesn't make sense, so I won't count those in.

I'm gonna name players, and by extension their teams at the time :

  1. Taimou, HarryHook, Cocco and Chipshajen have most Major wins (5) and 1 Premier win (APEX S1)
  2. SoOn has 4 Major wins and 1 Premier win (Overwatch Open)
  3. uNKOE, aKm, Winz and KnOxXx have 3 Major wins and 2 Premier wins (APAC 16 and Atlantic Showdown 16)

These are the most decorated players in the West (NA LuL).

Tobi, Ryujehong, Miro and Zunba have 1 Major win (Seoul Cup) and 2 Premier wins (doesn't feel fair not counting WCs because I personally believe they would've won them regardless, but little prep time, different team environment make them not feel like Premiers tbh).

These are easily the most decorated players in Korea.

Can't really compare, OWL should be the best starting point for such a ranking imo.

posted 5 months ago

Only pro players are featured on the side bar. If there are not enough streaming to fill it, it pulls the streamers with the most viewers below them.

posted 5 months ago

1k would be #6 and 2k #3 on Twitch right now wat

posted 5 months ago

Sadly matchmaking has to be fixed on Blizzard's end first for these measures to actually be effective. Right now it's just smokescreen, just like Dafran's case was.

posted 5 months ago

I actually said in a longer post in the first thread that an action should be taken for what he did, but not a 72 hour ban.

And it has been said many times about this, he had Djuggs in his games 5 times in a row before he started reporting him, so it doesn't matter if he did it at the start of it, he's not suddenly gonna swap off Sym and join voice chat. He shouldn't have reported him for cheating though and he got banned fair and square.

What he did was immature, but what Moonmoon, Tim, and some pros have done in their streams shouldn't be disregarded if one person gets banned.

posted 5 months ago

Symmetra one-trick he had for 5 games in a row before he actually reported him. Refused to communicate or swap. Djuggs got suspended for disruptive gameplay.

xQc got banned because he reported him for cheating (as well as poor teamwork and griefing, both of which are correct in this instance).

Also, Moonmoon reported xQc for abusive chat and typed 'french canadian' in the box. Moonmoon won't get banned obviously. And I know it's for the memes, but the double standard is mind boggling.

posted 5 months ago

How about soccer, fuckfest in cursing referees and players. So please just drop it, you're just digging deeper.

posted 5 months ago

He got banned for false report, look up what you post before actually posting it.

And what's your Blizzard source ? Or you not liking somebody is enough for you to say whatever it is you wanna say ?

posted 5 months ago

For the 100th time, he didn't get banned for toxicity. Get your facts straight, and stop doubling on posts, it's pointless.

posted 5 months ago

He used to pull 1 to 2k viewers when he was streaming consistently. He stopped streaming for months, other people started streaming/got bigger viewerbase. Talespin is a big fan favourite.

posted 5 months ago

I have seen him multiple times reporting mercy or junkrat players for "cheating"

...

I'll say this though, I didn't see that at the time, but I would've probably done the same after watching the VOD. Playing with/against a thrower multiple times in a row has its limits on one's patience. He went too far, but Blizzard went even further.

A random guy takes a clip out of context and literally gets a pro player suspended.
https://twitter.com/ryanshearer7997/status/931702771354660865

Sad days and stellar work from the Blizzard management team.

posted 5 months ago
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