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World Cup 2017 Katowice Group Stage: Group F
Sunday, August 6th
9:00 AM EDT
Maps/Stats
Map 1
Hollywood
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Map 2
Ilios
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Map 3
Horizon Lunar Colony
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Map 4
Route 66
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Map 5
Oasis
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Canada 2017
Checkpoints: 3
Capture progress: 0.0%
Time remaining: 0.00s
Winner Russia 2017
Checkpoints: 4
Distance pushed: 106.36m
Time remaining: 0.00s
Canada 2017 Winner
Round 1: 0%
Round 2: 100%
Round 3: 100%
Russia 2017
Round 1: 100%
Round 2: 0%
Round 3: 62%
Canada 2017 Winner
Checkpoints: 1
Capture progress: 63.5%
Time remaining: 389.00s
Russia 2017
Checkpoints: 1
Capture progress: 63.4%
Time remaining: 0.00s
Canada 2017
Checkpoints: 2
Distance pushed: 69.22m
Time remaining: 0.00s
Winner Russia 2017
Checkpoints: 2
Distance pushed: 69.23m
Time remaining: 3.50s
Canada 2017 Winner
Round 1: 100%
Round 2: 100%
Russia 2017
Round 1: 40%
Round 2: 0%
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#1
Ace117
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Based on Russia's scrims I would say Canada will take this or possibly draw depending on how well SDB plays.

Hopefully Canada 3-1 tho

#2
penda
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4-0 russia

#3
KuroiRyuu9625
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Challenge accepted.

3-1 Canada.

#4
Clickbait
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hoping to see russia dominate

#5
RedBlue
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Russia with a rare flag in a world cup

RIP canada

#7
KuroiRyuu9625
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Forsaken and Sharyk, I CALL FOUL PLAY.

#8
RedBlue
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we need a Russia investigation

#9
KuroiRyuu9625
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Done by the Trump administration.

#12
Blue
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VAC!

#6
Swennnnn
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Team Russia's roster is wacky

#10
Pixelfish
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LETS GO CANADA!!!

"Team Canada? Oh team Canada is lit up dude. We got Roolf going woosh woosh, Mangachu beep beep, Agilities swah swah, me going zzz zzz, Joemeister whoop whoop, Surefour pew pew swwwwish. Yeah dude team Canada lit up af"

#11
blakku
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Russia 3-1

#13
penda
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Russia should win because of unexpected flag diversity in a World Cup event

#14
KuroiRyuu9625
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I have faith in my Canadian squad but I'm not gonna lie, Russia's flag diversity is next level right now, oh and their two new additions are nutty.

But Winter has come, and we'll be the ones left standing after we weather the storm in our Igloos and ride our Meese to victory!

#15
KuroiRyuu9625
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Also, we have Maple. Fucking. Syrup. Enough said.

#16
Involv3r
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I'm hoping for some good pregame banter and my boy xQc slaying.

On the real though, both teams look stacked, super hecking hyped game right here. 3-1 CA

#17
victococoblazin
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Kuroi's flag kinda looks like the russian flag tho with the help of non-dark mode overgg,secretly rooting for team russia :thinking:

#18
Scrubasaurus
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are you saying that isn't a russian flag but just a blue and red one

#20
KuroiRyuu9625
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Flag is the one from Haiti, but it's missing the little emblem in the middle, it's blue/red. Google ma flag to see what it usually looks like.

#19
victococoblazin
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Yes but since the section above your flag is grayish-white,it kinda make it look like the russian flag

#21
luftwaffles
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Whoever loses this match is out of WC cause they're gonna have to face SK in the playoffs.

#22
Swennnnn
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#14 Ever heard of a battle against Russia in the winter that Russia hasn't won? (except with the Mongolians)

#23
KuroiRyuu9625
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Hockey, pretty often actually. Though in this case, after seeing each team in action, I'm not convinced we'll be able to overcome the Russian squad. They looked much more coordinated even though they had two new members join extremely recently.

I'm still holding out hope that my meese riding, maple syrup (only) eating and igloo living brethren can pull through and get the win.

#24
victococoblazin
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Poutine or Putin NotLikeThis

#25
Pixelfish
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I have to give the edge to Canada here. Not because they're necessarily the better team, no, not at all. It's just because Russia is slow, but Canada is agilities.

#26
NaifGs
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Will Russia's Mistakes beat Canada's Agilities, find out tomorrow.

#27
bvr
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mistakes isnt even close to agilities in my book :/

#29
Involv3r
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If Agilities is on Tracer, Mistakes wins. If he's on Genji, it's another story.

#28
Swennnnn
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#27 I think it was a play on words

#30
DouseTheGame
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More rare flags, gonna have to give it to russia :/

#31
Winter
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Imo, Mistakes Tracer is better than Surefour's, SB's Genji is better than Agilities and sharyk's tank play is better than xQc's. Everything else if fairly even. I reckon Russia will have the edge in this game but ultimately it's a team game and comes down to who performs better on the day. Russia certainly haven't looked like a team who've had limited practice though.

Should have mentioned though if Canada play pharmercy then Russia might struggle. Without unfixed they don't have a stand out soldier.

#36
IcebergDiz
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sharyks and xqcs tank play is very similar, shadowburn better than agilities but not by a massive margin, but mistakes better than surefour is a reach. Surefour has played in so many LANs and his tracer has always been consistent but more importantly super clutch. Ill admit i havent seen much of mistakes but judging him off this tournament surefour will definatly win the tracer battle imo, i agree that every other role is pretty even, this will be the best match of the weekend for sure.

#40
Winter
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Just my opinion. Surefour shines when the emphasis is put on him and his team tries to play around him, something Canada haven't been doing because they've got so many good individuals. From what I've seen from Mistakes in both the World Cup and Contenders, his Tracer has impressed me more than most in the west.

#32
HMS-Dragonfly
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Agilities vs Shadowburn TOP 10 ANIME BATTLES

#33
Pasta
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Should have mentioned though if Canada play pharmercy then Russia might struggle. Without unfixed they don't have a stand out soldier.

Remember when in MLG Vegas tourney Faze refused to run a soldier against Pharmercy and instead tried to outPharah opponents? I think thats what might happen for better or worse.

#34
Winter
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Shadowburn's pharah versus Mangachu's? Only one outcome in that scenario.

#35
victococoblazin
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You guys are underselling sdburn's pharah

#37
KuroiRyuu9625
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It's nowhere near Mangachu's or Surefour's. If Canada does get Pharah friendly maps I think they'll be going for that strat. It might be their best chance at at least getting 2 maps off the Russians imo.

#38
Admirable
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SDB will dunk those nerds

#39
penda
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Yeah SDB has a way better pharah than both surefour and mangachu. Plus if they put roolf on mercy than he can't do as much as he could on Ana or Zenyatta

#41
Pixelfish
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I think this whole thread is underestimating Canada. I personally think Agilities is on the same level as SDB, S4 by far outclasses Mistakes, and xQc is a much more consistent Winston. Plus they have a much stronger support duo (Rubikon is definitely a weak point for Russia) and Mangachu's flexibility plus his Pharah makes him much more valuable than Txao.

#43
Winter
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It's all a game of opinions. I think you've massively overestimated Canada, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens tomorrow. Nevertheless it'll be the best game of the tournament this weekend.

#44
KuroiRyuu9625
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Mangachu's a great pharah, a good soldier, and an OK D.Va, I don't know where that puts him when comparing his Off Tank play to Txao but when he's pressured or when he needs to peel for his teammates we start to see cracks.

My guess is that our best bet to win tomorrow is to abuse the shit out of Pharah comps wherever possible.

As for 1v1 matchups, I don't think there's as much of a skill gap as what's been said here but here's how I rate them:

  • SDB > Agilities on Genji
  • Mistakes > S4 if we limit them to Tracer but S4 has a massively bigger effective hero pool.
  • Sharyk >= xQc, I give a slight edge to Sharyk based on recent results but I think this matchup is largely dictated by who is better synced with his team. This one is more or less a toss up for me.
  • Roolf > Forsaken
  • Joemeister > Rubikon when it comes to Lucio things.

The main advantage I'd give Canada would be more flexibility team wise and a greater possibility of viable comps based on each player's proven hero pool.

As for Russia they looked more coordinated than Canada in their games and that usually translates to more wins when skill gaps are minimal imo.

Really in the end the team that has a better day and that is able to execute the game plan with the more effectiveness is gonna win and I think it could be either or!

But let's face it, I live in out nation's Capital. I speak French and eat maple syrup flavored poutine everyday so...GO CANADA GOOOOOOO!!!

#42
poi98
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Probably the first not 4-0 match lol

#45
bodyshottingwidow
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the only Canadians I've had experiences with are French Canadians....... LETS GO RUSSIA, RUSH B!

#46
KuroiRyuu9625
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How? They're by far the minority lol. And how dare you not support your North American brother! WE EVEN INVITED YOU TO MOVE HERE FOR THOSE THAT WANTED TO ESCAPE TRUMP!

Kappa.

#47
Clickbait
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probably the only somewhat interesting, not-one sided match

#48
bweesh
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I've been trying to come up with a prediction for this game but I've flip flopped on who I think will win at least 10 times

#49
Involv3r
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Why are people basing their guesses on hero by hero comparison ?
Surefour is not the best on any hero, but he's still here, still feared. He's like Varys. The storms come and go, the waves crash overhead, the big fish eat the little fish, and he motherfucking keeps on paddling.

Besides, IMT pelted Arc6's Pharamercy (arguably in top 2 NA) running Genji Tracer. You don't necessarily need a 76 to counter the combo, and Russia's Genji Tracer duo are individually scary. S C A R Y.

So if CA decides to run Pharah, they damn better be prepared. Can't wait, it's gonna be a sick game.

#50
KuroiRyuu9625
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Cause it's fun to speculate and comparing these "super teams" to the likes of Arc6 and IMT is difficult to do since thye don't have the set plays of the established teams so going off of individual skill and recent results would be the most semi-reliable way to try and predict match outcome.

Of course this is OW so anything can happen, but I still think Canada can make the Pharmacy work. They have two of the best Pharah players in the scene and I'm not convinced Russia has as much coordination as IMT showed during Contenders.

I still think it's anyone's game though I give the edge to Russia based on what I saw from them and Canada...but I know ma boyz can clutch it and pull through.

We all know that who ever finishes 2nd had a very high chance of getting hella bodied so the fight is on!

#51
Involv3r
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You say Russia doesn't have as much coordination as IMT, and I totally agree, but you do realise that Canada doesn't have as much coordination as Arc6. The teams not having set plays and much play time together is true, but it works both ways.

And I hope they make the combo work, Pharah's probably my favourite hero so I wouldn't mind that at all.
Also, in my opinion, tank synergy will be the decider tomorrow. And I don't know what to make of Roolf's Sombra, had good and not so good moments, although he's been stellar on every other support he played.

But if I wasn't clear, my bad, but I wasn't bashing on people speculating, I do it myself. It's more of an existential question. As in some people believe that it's an exact science to predict the outcome of a game.

#67
KuroiRyuu9625
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Yeah I get it, but I think you may have read too much into it. Speculating and predicting match outcomes can't be an exact science since it's all based on opinion and whatever other factors people put into it. You can disagree with the method but you can't quantify it as right or wrong.

#52
maxt3r
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A classic hockey rivalry now in OW. No matter who wins this is gonna be sick. Good luck.

#60
Samba
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A matchup that usually comes down to what team tilts the least and I think the same will happen here. The team that wins the first map wins the game.

#53
victococoblazin
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PogChamp GoT reference on over.gg

#54
Diplomatt
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ruskies to take it theyve got some big fraggers

#55
victococoblazin
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#44 you forgot mangachu's 2 best heroes TORB and HANZO

#56
Hater
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Just saying it would actualy be fucking halerios if the winner of this game just somehow gets strait chopped by TwoEasy and the boys. like the hype going into this game is mad imagine if the story ended in them both just getting chopped in the round of 16... but anyway since were picking sides, FUCK YES LETS GO RUSSIA

#57
Loco
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Thinking 2-2 (or 3-2 for Canada)

#58
Pasta
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I'am having serious goosebumps right now

#59
ManuxBaka
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Let's go Mapple Leaf , make us proud.

#61
bambusbjorn
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all i hope for, that its not a 4:0 again

#62
Blue
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shadowburn, the guy at times is non existent but holy fuck does he get clutch blades

#63
blitz0623
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Carryburn in the house

#64
Winter
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I feel so bad for Roolf after that first map. His orb's of discord's were constantly on SB and it was shutting him down almost every fight. His dragonblades are just so good though. xQc needs to sort out his dives as well in these next maps.

#65
MuscleK
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shadowburn is a beast at LAN PogChamp

#66
Involv3r
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Hollywood looked so messy for Canada, but 2 dragonblades clutched the whole map. Also Forsak3n had a 2 piece and forced S4 to recall, and Txao matrixed SDB that whole time, but went unnoticed sadly
Ilios was a good sweep, but it proved Russia's traditional dive outperforms Canada's.

Coordinated CA looks very strong, but more often than not, they're just everywhere.

#68
KuroiRyuu9625
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Canada looks a bit lost, cause trying to mirror Russia obviously isn't working but I'm surprised they didn't used the Pharah on Illios Ruins since I think they could have possibly taken it 2-0.

I hope they keep mixing things up to throw them off, they really need to take advantage of their versatility cause if they have any ace up their sleeve it might be that one

#69
maxt3r
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Even if Russia wins the last map the tiebreaker is Oasis so...

#70
Winter
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There's the answer to how will Russia cope with pharmercy without a recognised soldier.

#71
JBZ
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C'mon Russia, you are clearly better, shred that Egyptian Bird Cosplay Girl!

#72
Omegon
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this where Russia would have needed Unfixed.

#73
Winter
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This would probably be over if Unfixed was playing for Russia.

#74
KuroiRyuu9625
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Why does Canada keep going back to shit that doesn't work? I don't get it, they could actually have won that match outright.

#77
maxt3r
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Literally the only thing that works for Canada is pharmercy

#78
Winter
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Mangachu is clearly extremely nervous. Don't think he wants to constantly play Pharah incase he messes up. If he had more LAN experience then Canada would have probably won by now as Russia have no answer for it.

#75
JBZ
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O A S I S, why?

#76
blitz0623
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If Canada loses Oasis, they deserve to lose this matchup. Only way they won 2 maps is cause of Manga's Pharah and Russia's lack of hitscan

#96
THEBILLDOZER
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not having a good soldier player seems like a pretty huge flaw if you ask me. I can't imagine something like that being some throwaway reason you can brush off.

#79
Bena
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God what a close match! I belive Canada will win Oasis, their Pharah play seems to be superior and is a great on Oasis

#80
Involv3r
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Ok Mangachu is a nut, like he doesn't go for the crazy rockets, but the dude doesn't die.
And I feel so bad for Russia, Forsak3n is obviously struggling on Mercy, they shouldn't try to mirror.
But this is a PogChamp of a game

#81
Hellafine
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ggs

Russia can't deal with Mangachu's pharah

#82
maxt3r
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A win is a win, but you had to use a Mercy to do that.

ggs

#83
Admirable
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R I G G E D

#84
Triangleman
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Mangachu is actually a god

#85
MuscleK
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Mangachu carried so hard on Oasis, ggs

#86
KuroiRyuu9625
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Holy shit that was intense. Really hoping Canada keeps switching things up when the standard dive isn't working. Since their coordination isn't that hot the one thing they can use is their versatility in the number of comfort picks they have.

Good match. We still need to take down Netherlands so it's not over yet.

#87
Pasta
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GGS!
Close game. Make Group F proud Canada!

#88
Winter
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Definitely one of the most bizarre Overwatch games of recent times. Russia were clearly the better team but I've also never seen a team so inept at dealing with one player. I think had uNFixed been playing then Russia would've won, but nevertheless Canada made full use of the clear advantage they had with Pharah.

#89
Admirable
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Mangachu he aight, but Roolf was the difference maker

#90
JBZ
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It's a shame that a team like Australia is in the top 8 and Russia won't be.

#92
Bren
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thats a thonker my man

#97
blitz0623
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If you can't deal with Pharmacy, you don't deserve top 8

#98
maxt3r
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I don't know how you deal with it besides the mirror comp, which they tried. Just didn't have a mercy player. You can't just pick 76 in these comps.

#103
KuroiRyuu9625
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You can, Tracer/Soldier or Genji/Soldier are viable comps, but they didn't have that solid mid range hitscan that Unfixed would have brought.

Unfortunate, but it was an awesome match regardless imo.

#91
penda
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Roolf is so good man

#93
JBZ
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I think Canada should focus on playing Pharmercy becauset their chances at Blizzcon will be much higher then.

#94
blitz0623
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MangaMVP

#95
HMS-Dragonfly
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Mangachu is the best Pharah in the Universe. There, I said it. Dude has earned it. People were chanting "Mangachu, Mangachu", he should be proud of himself.

This match was lit, English stream peaked at 55k.

#99
Admirable
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I think we all made a grave miscalculation here, xQc's super rare Quebec flag was hidden :thinking:

#102
KuroiRyuu9625
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Oy, not a country. Dun open that can of worms.

#100
Swennnnn
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I think if agilities didn't kill the enemy pharmercy every fight, it would've been much different. Mangachu wasn't the MVP, it was agilities imo

EDIT: 3 page hype?

#101
Involv3r
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I said earlier that they don't necessarily need a 76 to deal with a Pharah Mercy, but you can't logically spend 3 games eating Pharah rockets on the forehead without even trying something else.
I honestly underestimated Mangachu's Pharah, his poke damage value was amazing, and this was a case of EU not playing with/against Mercy at all in recent times, they usually couple Zen with Pharah.

Like even SDB drifted on the point at the end just by himself, it's like he zoned out..

#104
bweesh
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The fabled third page, wow

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