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Non-Toxic Overwatch?

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#1
samiface

I've had some culture shock with the beta, as there were so many strangers in my random matchups being encouraging and positive. I can count on one hand the number of lobbies I've had like that in TF2....
Turns out, you can get banned from the game for being toxic/shitting on people/racism/etc. Additionally, anti-toxicity appears to be the main reason for the absence of killfeed.

I find it pretty refreshing, though the lack of killfeed is irksome. Your thoughts?

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Hessian
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Hopefully this with reign in the shit, but I don't know if it will last when it goes open. If one thing is certain its this: shit prevails

#3
DanceNumber
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The larger amount of people playing, the larger chance there's gonna be toxic idiots. Open beta is where we will really see what the game will be like.

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Sideshow
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Can they really hope to prevent some people having a bad attitude in a competitive game? The people who act like this are prevalent, or at least present, in every competitive game or sport. I think it's a noble idea but if it directly impacts those just trying to play the game (like the killfeed idea, what the fuck???) then it's just bordering on stupid imo.

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tsc
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Riot attempts to enforce it in League of Legends, so it's not the most unheard-of thing. Whether it's a good approach to have is a different story, though.

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Sedos
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I'd rather just deal with and ignore the idiots than have it become an everyone wins type of game like heroes of the storm, where you really can't tell how well you're individually doing

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Envy
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Riot level's of policing will kill the game, so hopefully we don't go down that route. I trust Blizzard though. They've always been sort of between Riot and Valve when it comes to handling this kind of thing, which is fine imo

#8
BLoodSire-AA-
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TF2 beta was very non toxic also, as was Evolve beta. Generally, people who play betas are just more interested in gaming and less interested in being goons.

#9
Socker
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Some amount of toxicity and flaming is a part of FPS gaming, hopefully the game wont turn in to a hugbox for people who can't tell online and offline life apart.

#17
jeffu
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I enjoy the shit talking aspect of competitive FPS games. I absolutely hate the SC2 and Hearthstone good manners everyone is friends :D! vibe they have.

#10
retrograde
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hopefully that continues but i feel like as the community grows the toxicity will get much worse. crossing my fingers!

#11
Magikarp
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Recently Blizz added a sort of Silence penalty in SC2 for people who get reported for abusive chat, HOTS has the same system also I believe. It would be safe to assume or guess that the same will be added to Overwatch in the long run as Blizz tends to do less work by implementing the same shit into their games.

#12
xzi
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I'm really hoping it stays positive. Shit talk is somewhat okay, but look at shittalk in games like.. TF2 vs shittalk in games like CS:GO, there is quite a major difference. The subreddit has already started to get out of hand very quickly and it's sort of bothersome.

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Sedos
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Aside from talking shit about summit for whining about things that kill him, I haven't seen any shittalk on there. Sure, people are mad that they can't get in, but that doesn't seem like toxic behavior that would carry over.

#14
fireindaarcade
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Ehh, I've seen a fair amount of "my competitive background is in game x, so people from game y aren't going to be as good at Overwatch as people from game x".

#15
Ark_
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To be fair, the argument that TF2/Quake players are going to doing better in the early days has some merit, as those games are much more similar to Overwatch than games like Dota or CS. Obviously that won't matter for long, as the transition from "TF2/Quake/Dota Player" to "Overwatch Player" solidifies.

#16
notHarbleu
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There will be toxicity in generally any competitive game. Whether it's in game, or through another means. This might just encourage people to be more creative with their shittalk.

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#18
kounter
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I feel like toxicitity comes from being better at the game than someone and playing a new game in closed beta on top of no real stats, it humbles people.

#19
tetra
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i don't really think that's always the case. plenty of pro level players in whatever game are incredibly sweet. it's just people making a choice to be dicks. i understand why people like to trash talk when it comes to competition, but being toxic is very different. just be nice ya goons

#20
Aurugorn
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It looks pretty good right now from what I've seen on Twitch. Who knows what'll happen once more people get in though. As long as it doesn't turn into CSGO toxic I'm cool with it. I do hope they will rethink leaving out the kill feed. they belong in FPS games.

#21
snack-
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what is a game if you can't talk shit. Look at hearthstone that game's ass. No scoreboard is fucking idiotic

#22
Ploxo
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http://strawpoll.me/5976455 important

#23
Ragor
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No Roadhog, no vote

#24
DaFox
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It definitely is refreshing. I've only ever run into a couple people that are unpleasant to play with so far.

I'm sure it wont stay like this forever. Everyone's on their best behavior because almost every game you play in has a blizzard dev in it and they could very easily do something about toxic behavior.

#25
Generation1
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yeah, it would be really excellent to have non-toxic overwatch but like Sideshow said, can they really prevent toxicity in a competitive game?

I think removing the kill feed could help though.

#26
Scrubasaurus
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why are you like this

#30
Generation1
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had to

#28
neris
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are you serious? would be stupid to remove it

#31
KuroiRyuu9625
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No. It wouldn't.

#27
Rooky
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This thread didn't age well

#29
paolodicandio
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i dont think it has to do with the game it's just humanity in general got way more toxic in the last years.

#32
Mundi
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lmao u actually believe that?

#34
paolodicandio
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just look around ppl got greedier more hateful more toxic since trap music became a thing, no yoke

#33
wentaway
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Holy mother of all necros! Like literally Herbert West kind of stuff. :)

Jokes asides, being hidden behind a monitor and keyboard "helps" people to behave like a-holes, there's nothing a company can do to be sure to avoid what people nowadays calls "toxiciy".

Competitive/PvP focused games are of course affected even more, but wasn't very different in the age of MUDs and so on, just way less people playing online on a single game so less chances to notice it.

#35
Shun
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MUDs

That's an acronym I haven't seen used in a while...

#36
dregran
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you just have to think about why people play video games. do they play to have a good time? probably. do they play to have a good time while other things in their life are frustrating or they are having a bad time? probably. people, especially younger people, are really good as misdirecting their frustration and anger.

most of the time when I'm positive to people they're not so bad. I guess things are different culturally for me since everyone is toxic as hell in match chat but no one really cares or takes it personally - a lot of people are toxic in voice chat to their group/friends too, but it's just banter. giving people the chance to just say some mean stuff and playing along with it instead of poking back at them is a good way to resolve stuff too. if you just meme out and have fun in voice chat you'll probably have a good time, even if you lose.

#37
Def
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Overwatch is toxic and will be forever.

I found this article - How to win in Toxic Overwatch game. There are some good tips, give it a try.

The site is Czech, but the article is in English.

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