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1.5.0.2 Patch - SOMBRA

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#1
TechDude

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752015856 https://imgur.com/a/MuFN9

Sombra is live in competitive

Nano Boost move speed nerf

Any thoughts as to how this is going to affect upcoming APEX matches??'

NOTE: Edited to add blizz forum link for changelog

#2
Blue
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Did not expect it to be so soon

#3
Sideshow
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Unbelievably stupid not to schedule around $100k+ tournaments. There is a hugely important - and very close - match happening tomorrow between RunAway and KongDoo Panthera and it will just be a guessing game between the two. They won't have been practising extensively in PTR, they haven't had anywhere near enough time and were told the changes would not go live in that form.

Then there's the playoffs, and there's no guarantee whatsoever that the teams who were good in the previous patch will be as good in this one. Look at NiP, the difference between the two patches was gigantic - in one they are a tier 2/3 team in Europe and then suddenly in the next they're one of the best teams in the world. There's very little legitimacy to the teams who made it to APEX playoffs now, they'll have to scramble to adapt as a lot of their preparation, practice, and comps are thrown to square one.

The PTR has not been tested enough and they have done only one iteration of it; the PTR was even advertised as major changes that shouldn't be expected to all go live. It blows my mind that they've just shoved it live and fucked an enormous tournament. It makes me so frustrated to see these basic mistakes. All they had to do was hold off for just over two weeks, making some small tweaks to the PTR based on feedback in the meantime, and there'd be a far better reception and they wouldn't have fucked the biggest global tournament so far in Overwatch.

#5
bamboothief
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With all due respect, I think it's only true for 1-2 weeks big tournaments. It's unreasonable to ask developers to schedule update around 2 months long leagues. 99% of player base takes priority over a tournament.

#12
seaDee
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That was a large surprise to me, and my biggest gripe. Not that the changes pushed were bad, but I was expecting a lot more testing to be done before anything was committed. The PTR was only up for what, a week or two? While I understand not wanting to restrict yourself to only releasing updates when major tournaments are not going on, I hope Blizzard will at least be able to give more notice next time. A "Hey, we know we said these changes weren't likely to make it to live, but we've changed our minds and a new patch will be heading out in the next few days" would go a long way.

Also, I'm surprised Sombra made it to live without any changes - especially her health kit hack period. Interested to see how that plays into the meta.

#13
Angry_rock
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Yeah, it kinda does make apex seem completely pointless since the changes were so huge.

#14
vee
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is it confirmed they're playing on this patch? I know for Atlantic Showdown they had LAN clients/servers that were running the previous patch

#4
Admirable
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Really interested to see how 25% ultimate cost increase changes the flow of high level play.

Terrible timing for tournaments though, definitely could have waited til APEX ended on December 3rd and still given teams two weeks to prepare for MLG Vegas.

#6
Sideshow
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99% of the playerbase is also not playing Blizzard-sanctioned cups for $178,000. And it's not like they were even clamouring for Sombra to go live yet, the majority of feedback I saw was about tweaking Pharah/Soldier76, nobody was asking for Sombra to be in ranked immediately. There's no tangible negative to delaying Sombra going live for a fortnight.

As for scheduling around longer tournaments, if they had been aiming to release in the beginning half of this 2 month tournament then I would agree, but they only have to wait another 2 weeks for it to be completely over and the PTR has massive changes that've only been live for one week. Even one more day to avoid the regular season and then have a different meta for playoffs - which would be barely better but it would indicate some sort of respect/coordination with the tournament. I don't think it's reasonable to shove meta-changing patches, which this certainly is, in the middle of such major tournaments. Either they don't care about 3rd party events or they'll continue doing this for OWL etc. which is a terrible policy both ways.

#7
bamboothief
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Sombra is just one of many parts of a big patch. The balance patch also buff under power heroes like 76 which have been so weak for months and nerf overpower heroes. The actual game and actual 99% player base should take priority over a outside game event that last 2 months.

#8
Bren
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Valve are the same with 3rd party dota tournaments, not afraid to shove out updates that break the current meta. From a spectator point of view I actually quite enjoy it in that you can see the meta change before your very eyes, the players I imagine must fucking hate it.

#9
penda
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blizzard probably wouldn't do this for a tournament they host.
they wouldn't make exceptions for specific 3rd party tournaments

#10
Mewpers
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Blizzard telegraphed this week's ago.

#11
Sideshow
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Another thing I didn't mention is that they could fix this situation by saying a week beforehand "we are planning for the PTR to go live next Tuesday". Teams could spend time scrimming in PTR, or strategising for it at least, and they would know exactly which games would be on which patches to plan for their opponents.

#15
downpour
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theres something wrong with supports besides ana, they are all still building ult at least as fast as they used to, maybe even faster

#17
Collaide
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Am I the only one who enjoyed the 3v3 gamemode in arcade a lot?

#18
Shun
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It always says most popular in the Arcade list, so I don't think you're alone.

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