Zata
Country: United States
Registered: March 9, 2018
Last post: March 10, 2018 at 4:59 AM
Posts: 2

the biggest thing is the racist emote since it is so inflammatory. The comments towards the casters were bad (from what i saw he was calling them cancer and retards) but i don't think it justifies a suspension for banter on a steam. The racist emote was the real reason for the suspension and fine even though tryhard is not inherently racist. I believe all punishment should be issued in a vacuum to show no favoritism or have a system to punish repeat offenders. (I haven't read the new code of conduct for OWL players so it might be in there.)

"They’re getting paid quite a bit of money to be apart of the league" really? I come from the CSGO community so 50k-150k+ salary is not that much compared to other Esports, most tier 1 csgo pros get 10k-25k+ a month (120k-300k+ a year) in salary plus streaming $ and anywhere from 50% to 90% of tournament winnings.

Honestly I think the OWL is too strict on their players to fine them for personal comments on twitter and on their personal streams. Punishing players is fair if what they say/do is wrong and affect the OWL/ORG's Brand but i don't see how tryhard 7 is racist and that is a HUGE accusation to make towards someone without evidence. I think the ORG should discipline the players rather than the league since the players are paid by the org and represent the org before the league. Plus if DF suspended QXC it would show the orgs values rather than the League's which would make sense of a company disciplining an employee vs an parent company disciplining a contractor of a different entity. Punishing players for what they do in game should be the OWL's problem but out of game should be the orgs issue. Plus should XQC be fined and suspended for the banter (if they want to say the racist thing they first have to prove it) to the caster? If it is a combination of both his recent actions and his past actions (which he has paid for) I think punishing him for that sets a precedent which blizzard may have a hard time following in the future. They suspended him for the Muma situation but only fine Tiamou although it was similar and both their first offence.

IDk if OWL thinks it is better or more structured than other Esports but it seems like it is stifling the players personalities for a more PC environment. The biggest thread in CSGO, LOL, and DOTA 2 is player rivalries and banter (konfig in CSGO, Doublelift in LOL, Navi v Alliance in Dota) For me that is what keeps me involved and follow the Esport.

This is my first Esport where the the Devs are super involved (I followed SC2 and CSGO) and from what I have seen so far I am not a fan. It seems like Blizzard are more worried about their and the leagues image rather than creating cool and interesting rivalries. (DF and HO Rivalry is from COD and other rivalries are from tradition sports rivalries rather creating real rivalries like Soul D and the best western team) I may have fallen off my original point to other things that erk me about OWL but my main point was that i think the biggest thing is calling someone racist with no proof. That is a serious accusation which can follow him throughout his career and personal life. I think they should be 100% clear on what they consider racist since an "emote in a racially disparaging manner on the league's stream and social media," is really vague and doesn't even say what emote or the context of how it was used which is very important.

posted about 6 years ago

This is so stupid. fine and suspend xqc for putting tryhard7 in an owl chat is insane. Tryhard is not racist, the context is extremely important to the meaning of emotes since emotes are neither word or hieroglyphs. Emotes are basically the embodiment of feelings and actions. People may use emotes along with racist text but it was also used with other context to show other emotions. I feel like xqc was thrown to the wolves for something because of his past actions rather than what he actually did. Blizzard and the OWL is insane for their requirements for personal comments. Also giving tairong a warning for a meme of something 60 years ago is nuts. like was the bombing too soon and was anyone actually offended by a tweet about ww2?

posted about 6 years ago