Wednesday, December 6th
7:00 PM EST
Patch 1.18

Winter Wonderland 2017

Maps/Stats
Map 1
Dorado
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Map 2
Temple of Anubis
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Map 3
Oasis
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Map 4
Eichenwalde
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Map 5
N/A
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Florida Mayhem
Checkpoints: 1
Distance pushed: 91.92m
Time remaining: 0.00s
Winner San Francisco Shock
Checkpoints: 2
Distance pushed: 91.93m
Time remaining: 0.00s
Florida Mayhem
Checkpoints: 3
Capture progress: 0.0%
Time remaining: 0.00s
Winner San Francisco Shock
Checkpoints: 3
Capture progress: 56.7%
Time remaining: 0.00s
Florida Mayhem
Round 1: 100%
Round 2: 55%
Round 3: 99%
Winner San Francisco Shock
Round 1: 70%
Round 2: 100%
Round 3: 100%
Florida Mayhem Winner
Checkpoints: 3
Capture progress: 0.0%
Time remaining: 108.00s
San Francisco Shock
Checkpoints: 2
Distance pushed: 63.13m
Time remaining: 0.00s
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#1
LordOfHorns
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H Y P E
H Y P E
H Y P E
H Y P E
H Y P E

#2
ethanVN02
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Let's go fusion

#87
Modern13Myth
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Lawlz

#3
BrandonSamuels
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i got my money on philly

#86
ToyrntUs
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lmao

#4
Hellafine
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IT IS WEDNESDAY MY DUDES

#5
Hellafine
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SDB had a good synergy with FCTFCTN back there in FaZe, it would be good to see him doing well with Fragi now, if, of course, the meta does not changes by that time and genji with winston still be a thing.
yeah and I'm glad that the SDB-Carpe duo is not touched

#6
poi98
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This will be awesome

#7
spiderlily
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Mayhem about to secretly be last place finish in OWL

#8
poi98
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I think their strategy is related to mid season sign ( they have 6 places free while others teams 0) and with the structure of OWL this will help them on late term....but we have to see how much they can perform well on early term. Mannetten TVIQ and Zebbosai plus Cwoosh dps are important for their flexibility. Their major problem will be logix on others heores different than tracer

#11
spiderlily
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and the fact that logix is a serial LAN choker.. Mayhem gona need to put 110% in this season

#15
Involv3r
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Choking once makes one a serial choker. Interesting.

#16
poi98
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Ye give him time

#17
spiderlily
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Once? He choked World Cup, Takeover and Contenders.

#18
Involv3r
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He played 3 LANs. OWWC had him with only one other pro on the team, namely Spree, vs UK, Germany and Israel in groups. I seriously don’t know what you expect to happen there, didn’t play bad at all, team was outmatched.
And Takeover is where he actually made his name to the public, played fucking amazing all tournament long.

So yes, he choked once. Might wanna watch the games before spewing nonsense.

#20
spiderlily
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World Cup is still a LAN, doesn't matter how many arbitrary restrictions you place on it. Players like Klauss stood out and got recognition when they are in the same boat as Logix. Mickie is another example from the year before. You can do work in World Cup.

Takeover he ghosted through. Admittedly his wasn't as clear cut as his other showings, but I chalk this up to the nature of Takeover. Being a casual environment with no crowd. Which coincidently means fuck all considering no future LAN that matters will be like Takeover.

& Not sure what you're smoking but he got his real recognition with Misfits in Contenders online season. People didn't rate him nearly as high as they did then.

So yes, he's a serial LAN choker. It's nothing surpising, he's young with little exp. He should hopefully iron out those nerves in OWL. As it's LAN every week.

#21
Involv3r
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I don't care if World Cup is a LAN or not, having to play against premade teams or just plain better squads is a fact. And I hope you realize the Argentinian squad was playing together before the WC. Also if you think Mickie had a better showing than Logix then there's no point talking about this anymore.

And I can safely say that you didn't watch TakeOver, or at least the Movistar games, cause it actually is where it all 'started' for Logix, that's why Misfits picked him up. I believe you ghosted through it, certainly not him.

#22
KuroiRyuu9625
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I'll give you Contenders but he got handled in the OWWC groups, since he was the only real threat to be taken care of. As for TakeOver2 he wasn't as stellar as he could have been in the playoffs, but he played much better than in Contenders imo.

2 events isn't enough for me to declare him a serial choker but we'll get to see very quickly if he's been able to recover and improve.

#61
Hafficool
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they're still miles ahead of some of these teams lmao

#9
Pixelfish
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Let's go Phusion!

#10
poi98
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Lol i wanna see this match but is in the middle of the night......:(. Wanna see the europiean boys

#12
Pixelfish
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I am sorry poi :(

#13
poi98
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Thank you my friend :(

#14
quickvik
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hype match

#19
DrWitz42
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Wonder what roster Philly will field. This is preseason, so they may mess around a good bit with it.

#74
LordOfHorns
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Their fielding this very strange San Francisco Comp. Never seen this before

#23
verb
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POGCHAMP

#24
Wallhugger
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Do we know what patch preseason will be played on?

#25
LordOfHorns
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I assume the latest?

#26
Involv3r
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Will be played on the current one most likely, since there will be next to no time to prepare well for the next patch. Season will start on the new one.

#27
tamagao
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I think it's likely they will play in the next one. Last time they had a Mercy nerf they made APAC play on it immediately. I imagine they'll do the same here for the same reason of Mercy making the game less fun to play and watch.

#29
Involv3r
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You think ? Less quality for the OWL exhibition games was my reasoning if a few changes go through a week or so prior, but I guess every team would be ready for Ana to be back. Didn't think about the APAC situation so you might be right actually.

#28
murasaki
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EU game PogChamp

#30
scent
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Calling fusion to take this one.

#31
Trotz21
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FLORIDA REPRESENTING HERE LET US GO FLORIDA WOOHOP

#32
majkel1893
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are these lineups already final ?

#33
Fontuctus
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no, they will even change on the day as players sub in and out across maps

#34
gzuzz
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no love for EU, first game starting at 1AM CET.
without EU and SK players this league would be just an avarage tier20 tournament.

#35
LordOfHorns
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You ok dude?

#36
Toga
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Easy for Boimeister less go Fusion

#37
ManuxBaka
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2 weeks boiss !! Can't wait

#38
Pixelfish
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hype hype hype hype

#40
KuroiRyuu9625
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HyyYYYYyyype!

#41
ManuxBaka
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Oh my 5 star champion !!! ezpz

#57
ManuxBaka
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I've already said it , but i'm o hype for my phily bois !! Less than a week !

#39
victococoblazin
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This match will showcase the teamwork of these teams that picks up single players and kinda set the bar the rest of the season versus teams that decided to pick up cores instead so i hope philly do well

#42
ManuxBaka
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I'm rooting for my fellow frenchman Poko !! #LetsGoPhily #GoingNova

#43
poi98
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Battle for the final 5th/6th OWL final placements imho...SO HYPE!!!!!

#44
Farsil
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I'm so frustrated at these matches' schedule. I can't watch live most of them. I don't think it was fair of Blizzard to place all the matches in the west coast: east coast timezone is more accessible to us European folks, and still acceptable for people from the west coast. I recognize that the timezone favors Korea more, though, which I assume has a wider audience than Europe.

But hey, at least I can watch the VODs FeelsBadMan

#45
KuroiRyuu9625
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It's a given though, the teams are playing in LA, they're not trying to cater to any other region other than NA right now. And let's be real here, the vast majority of viewership would come from NA without even thinking about the actual venue.

Hopefully OWL does well and you get more matches at times more appropriate for you in the coming years.

#46
accountseverywhere
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Wow this is only 9 days away. It feels really good saying that.

#47
irishfire
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In going fusion 3-1 because I feel they just out match the mayhem. If the mayhem are going to win, its off of tviqs rat and logix on tracer

#48
poi98
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The real problem with mayhem is that they have an insane classical offtank with zarya and roadhog...but cwoosh is mainly a wiston player so they will not have 100% chemistry on tank side....will de if Philly will go with Sado Hotsba or Fragi Poko

#50
Involv3r
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Will be surprised if Poko isn’t a starter. Guy’s a monster beast at every off tank besides Hog (never played it at pro level so can’t say really). Leaves Hotba as a viable option since Sado’s past isn’t the cleanest but I’ve never seen him play.

#51
victococoblazin
1
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hotba is the go to dva player im sure

#55
Involv3r
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Poko is a pretty sick Dva, never seen Hotba play so can't really talk about him, but Poko is nuts.

#52
poi98
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100% agree with you but we will see if they wanna go with which composition since is pre and probably they will not try hard

#56
Involv3r
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Ye these preseason games will just serve to test the waters with teams in an offline environment and such, results shouldn't be taken too seriously.

#49
Fluoride
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Honestly I don’t think any teams would take preseasons seriously, so judging a teams standings in the league based on these is just inaccurate

#53
Guinea
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Well it's not like theyre gonna straight up throw. It's still OWL, I think it still provides good insight.

#62
KoleeKo
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Nah

#65
Hellafine
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anyway it will be nice to watch, we might see some crazy stuff, because teams will play without any pressure

#54
blakku
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Phusion 3-2

#58
ManuxBaka
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it's a four-map sets so this score is impossible :)

#59
blakku
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It is possible If Phusion wins 2 maps, Florida wins 1 map and a tie on 1 map.

#60
victococoblazin
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it is possible if they go with the contenders format where if they go 2-2 then they'll go to illios to determine a winner

#63
karzahni14
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seems like an upopular opinion, but im thinking the mayhem will win this. gotta support my explosive bois.

#64
CamRa
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2 D A Y S B O I S

#66
KuroiRyuu9625
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HYYYyyyYYYYYyyyPPe!!

#67
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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oof I can't wait to see what the production will be like...

#68
LordOfHorns
0
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Just like WC

#69
Wombat
0
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Phusion ez 4-0

#71
Wombat
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LOL my prediction didn't even last 90 minutes.

To be fair to Phusion they are doing Mayhem a favour, almost like a mercy killing. They didn't want to completely and utterly destroy Florida and kill off whatever small fanbase they have before OWL starts. Based Fusion.

Yeah I'm kidding dw.

#70
ideekae
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tfw the first win of the season will be a resignation

e: nvm its shock haHAA

#72
Shoubushi
0
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Why is it showing Mayhem vs Shock now? It's supposed to be Fusion

#75
CamRa
0
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no twitch stream probably

#76
irishfire
-1
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y

#77
CamRa
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blizz logic

#78
irishfire
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so where is the stream at, Youtube

#79
Hellafine
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MLG sells “substantially all” assets to Activision Blizzard - never forget
$46 million btw

#80
Emaxmagnus
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They will stream this on twitch, r-right?

#81
paolodicandio
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na pre-season is only on MLG.TV cuz they probably still have contract with MLG until the end of the year i guess
i just hope for instant vods otherwise this preseason will be useless for me :(

#83
Emaxmagnus
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terrible eu timing and not even on twitch : biblethump:

#114
Dunkster1
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Watching the MLG stream now so much better than twitch.

#84
bvr
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i NEED to know if there will be VODs :(

#82
Donotask
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RIP Twitch chat T T

#85
Raisin
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Over.gg viewing party in the discord?

#88
bweesh
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excited to see if Nomy's Winston has progressed to an OWL level

#89
Involv3r
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Mayhem 3-1 Shock

#90
JBZ
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They should just do it like the NFL timingwise, that’s OK for EU.

Mayham 3 - 1 Shock

#91
LordOfHorns
0
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This.

If it’s exclusively on weekends then yes

#92
Hellafine
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ACTION IS COMING

2:30am in central russia right now btw

#93
Hitchcock
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I seriously just found out that this won't be on twitch. I mean... AVGN voice: WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
#NotLikeThis

#94
HMS-Dragonfly
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is there some kind of chatbox on MLG or OWL.com????

#95
Hitchcock
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there is a chatbox on MLG TV if u happen to have an account on this platform LUL

#96
Admirable
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PogChamp

#121
tamagao
-1
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how does admirable comment for the first time in 2 months and no one notices

#97
Wombat
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Jesus what are they thinking?

Nightmare after NIGHTMARE! Let me watch on Twitch ffs

#98
Triangleman
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I want my twitch memes BLIZZARD

#99
Generation1
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I think we are seeing why Mayhem is going to be weak... I don't know if Tviq is just being stubborn or of they are really committed to this strat but they would benefit probably from a tracer but Logix is their tracer but I think he needs to stick on widowmaker there...

#100
Pixelfish
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Is there... any way to watch it on Overwatchleague.com? Or is it only on MLG?

#103
cha0
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Try incognito mode or disable adblock

#106
DrElementary
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This was the answer, thanks.

#101
Liche
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Tviq keeps carrying but he can't make up for Logix choking
Zebbosai's mercy also needs work

#105
ideekae
0
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why play mercy when u can play soldier amirite

#102
Yndi
0
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01:30 am and gotta wake up at 7 FeelsAmazingMan
At least the first game was good!

#104
Jinorz
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Dude same except it's 2:30am

#112
Xeon
1
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Same ;( but OW is love, OW is life

#107
K2
1
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The quality of the stream is absolutely fantastic and the whole MLG layout is beautifully done

#111
LaurenceR
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Agreed, I do wish the chat was a little easier to follow though, and I miss not using emotes

#108
Loco
2
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Cwoosh' winston is painfully underwhelming

#109
irishfire
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Screw all who said the Shock winning was crazy

#110
blitz0623
2
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"We don't need more than 6 players"

LUL

#113
TheJTank27
2
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B A B Y B E L

#115
LaurenceR
0
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Well he has been hitting some tasty shots

#116
Pixelfish
0
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Shock is doing well.

#117
MemphisVon
0
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Will there be a vod?

#118
DrElementary
1
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Headline: San Francisco Shocks Mayhem
ez

I don't know why everyone is so down on the Shock, though. They aren't the best, but I think they'll do pretty good this season.

#119
Drex
1
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gg shocks. didnt think mayhem would be that poor

#120
Matsugawa
2
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Zebbosai die wayy to much on mercy

#122
ideekae
0
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I didn't know OWL was sponsored by gucci

#123
Liche
-1
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mayhem only good on rounds that don't matter

#126
penda
-1
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None of the preseason matters you twat

#124
penda
0
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Cwoosh turning around midair to dodge getting headshot by babybay widow is some of the coolest shit I’ve seen in a while.

#125
PotatoKing
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Babybay has been really impressive throughout this match. He's known for his 76, but he's shown a surprisingly deep hero pool.

#127
blakku
1
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Close match tbh.

#128
Pixelfish
3
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Babybay was the standout for sure.

#129
CamRa
4
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Babybay popped off. Manneten tried his best to carry but wasn't enough. IDDQD did better than I expected.

#130
FontAtSchool
0
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Out of intrest how many people actually watched this game live, or do we not know? I was asleep so have no clue

#131
victococoblazin
0
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mlg didn't show viewer count unlucky but chat was really active on the mlg website

#132
FontAtSchool
0
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good to know thank you

#133
poi98
0
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Just finish watch vods...Manneten played great. Babybay is a beast. Logix underperform on tracer but showed up a great window. Tviq waste many ults imho. But he played a great mccree on Dorado. Also all games were really close. Hype to see more. Nevix is probably the most flexible god players i ever seen. He is a god.

#134
FontAtSchool
1
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honestly lost count of the amount of heroes nevix has played ;)

#135
Modern13Myth
0
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My boys in the Shock did great. 3-1 to start the season off right.

#136
zero
1
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Once Sinatraa is able to play, I don't expect iddqd to play a lot.

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